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Old 02-27-2010, 08:10 AM
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The key to this whole debate that people seem to be missing is that zip ties move relative to the structure, while correctly installed adel clamps don't (hence the term "clamp"). Remember, it's the oil and grit that does the damage, not the plastic zip tie. A poorly installed adel will saw through an engine mount just as a zip tie will because it too will accept oil and an abrasive. The difference is, a zip tie is NOT a cushoined clamp like an adel. Once again, a servicable, correctly installed adel clamp will NOT move, therefore can NOT do damage. The same cannot be said of a ziptie (unless you add a few extra steps).

Sure, the zipties work in some cases, just as bolts and nuts from Home Depot might work in some cases, but that does not mean they are a direct substitute for the right stuff. Use zipties if you like, just don't try fool yourself or others into thinking they are a newer, better version of an Adel clamp, because they aren't.
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again, since there are no regs concerning this issue... The statement about using "the right stuff" is personal preference only.
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Old 02-28-2010, 08:08 PM
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Finally some proof! How many hrs.? You obviously removed the adel clamps to check under there as well, right??!! Any damage under them?
Nope, there were no Adel clamps on my engine mount before I bought the airframe. I removed the tie wraps, and installed Adel clamps. Tie wraps were (as far as I know) original, and the airplane has approximately 500 hours on it.
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Old 02-28-2010, 11:06 PM
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Smile Another option...

...not suitable for motor mounts, but this thread is for all ties FWF.

These seem to be a new product at our local Home Depot aviation department, and might be suitable for some locations - attaching firesleeve to hoses would come to mind.

About 60 cents per tie IIRC - haven't used them yet...

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Old 02-28-2010, 11:24 PM
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I like how they were careful to add "UV Resistant" to the stainless steel cable ties. Maybe they should put "corrosion resistant" on the Nylon ones.
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I like how they were careful to add "UV Resistant" to the stainless steel cable ties. Maybe they should put "corrosion resistant" on the Nylon ones.
I would bet they are also "cholesterol free".
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Is no one else amazed that a simple topic like zip-ties could spawn a thread with 72 posts ?!? (now 73!) Talk about a topic with legs ...
This happens because the moderators won't let us discuss global warming, whether or not 9/11 was a government conspiracy, or who shot JFK.
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Is no one else amazed that a simple topic like zip-ties could spawn a thread with 72 posts ?!? (now 73!) Talk about a topic with legs ...
Heck, a pink scooter generated 148 posts
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