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02-02-2010, 12:48 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: TN
Posts: 42
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PRK
I had PRK about 12 years ago to correct lifelong nearsightedness. It was very painful for about a day. Other than that, I can recommend it without any hesitation. I just passed my Class II medical, and would have been Classs I if I had needed it. The procedure was without a doubt the single most life-improving thing I have ever spent money for. Go for it.
Tom
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02-02-2010, 12:54 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: WA State
Posts: 192
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Originally Posted by DanLandry
Since then, I've had implants which have corrected my vision at night and daytime to far exceed my LASIK. Now 20-15, both eyes.
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Dan, Can you provide more detail about the implants you received? Thanks!
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02-02-2010, 01:37 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Forest Grove, OR
Posts: 239
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I had Lasik about two years ago when I was in my mid 40's. The proceedure went well and I was happy with the outcome for my near sighted vision. Unfortunately my close up vision has been getting worst every since then. The doctor warned me that it would happen but said it would anyway because of my age. I don't think it would have happened as fast but who knows. Now I wear readers all the time I'm in the shop working on the airplane. Prior to then I could read the fine print on pill bottles with no problem. I had big starburst with headlights when driving at night initially. That's never total gone away but isn't that bad. I certainly didn't have them prior to Lasik. So generally speaking I'm glad I did it but beware of what you can expect depending on your age. For the medical I simply took a note from the eye doctor at my next regular flight medical exam. The Lasik doctor will give you a card to carry until you have the eye glass restriction removed from your drivers license.
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02-02-2010, 02:58 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Delta, CO/Atlin, BC
Posts: 2,389
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the potential bad side of this
OK, I know there are a lot of success stories out there, so here's my "tail of the distribution curve" story. I underwent RK (radial keratotomy) in 1994 (age 41), just before the lasik stuff was on the market. Before surgery I was significantly nearsighted. I had good vision for a few years, but gradually went further and further farsighted. 3 years after surgery, I required glasses again (but the other direction this time). I think what happened is that the RK made me farsighted initially, but I was able to correct until my lenses started to crystallize in my mid-40s (which is why most folks need reading glasses), at which time I could no longer make the correction with my eyes internally. A few years later, I had plastic lens implants for cataracts (very common surgery these days), and as part of that surgery, they are able to add corrections to the implants (kind of like internal contact lenses). It still did not bring me to 20/20. Although I can function reasonably well without glasses, I still require them to fly, and its generally easier to wear them for most things than not wear them. I still have halos from the RK (which is also common) and my eyes change between morning and evening, so no prescription really makes things as good as they should be.
It wasn't lasik, but was a not pleasant result. More...
My younger brother had lasik about 10 years ago (mid 40s) and required several corrections before they got it right (different doctor than me). At this point, he seems pretty good with it.
My son also had lasik at 21 (again, different doctor) and, after some initial complications, so far can see well, but I (and he) believe that it is primarily because he is young and his lenses are flexible. His corneas are not quite right.
Maybe it's something genetic, but if I had any of this to do over, I would not do it. Somebody has to be on the edge of the curve (the 1% who are worse off than when they started) and, unfortunately, this time it was me. Fortunately, they are still able to reasonably correct my vision with glasses (I cannot wear contacts because of the surgery). Nor do I mean this to be a whine because it was my choice at the time and I'm willing to live with that choice. I just encourage anyone considering this sort of thing to think long and hard about it and make sure that you are willing to live with the result.
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02-02-2010, 03:34 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Imlay City, Mi
Posts: 22
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If you are having difficulties reading before the surgery it will really be noticeable after. I could always take my glasses off or my contacts out and hold reading material close enough to see and read it. After lasik, that does not work anymore. That is my only issue with the surgery and I just make sure I have readers... now where are they...
Ricatic
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02-02-2010, 04:21 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: NE
Posts: 14
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PRK from the Air Force
I, too, was concerned about being one of the 1% that had terrible results. I waited, read up, and took the plunge in April of '08. The first couple of days and nights after the procedure (both eyes) were a bit rough; it felt like sandpaper across the eyes with the "bandaid" contact lens. I turned the corner at the five day mark with minimum to no pain as long as I kept the drops flowing, and by the time they took the contacts off and sent me home, I was pretty much pain free w/ 20/20 in both eyes. When I did my six month check, I was at 20/15 and got the same results at the one year mark in April of '09.
I recommend doing everything post-procedure the doc tells you to do. Put UV blocking sunglasses on EVERY time you go outside. Just like a sunburn, UV negatively affects the tissue, but even more so when its healing. With something as important as your vision, and with the sensitivity of eyes to begin with, wear the sunglasses. I also was religious in putting the steroids in as required until the prescription ended, and I made sure I hit every follow up appointment.
For now, books, papers and screens at a normal distance are still crystal clear and I don't have halo or glare problems. However, I am 45, so regular age issues will start hitting and reading glasses will be the norm within the next few years. Still, I wouldn't trade the new vision for anything, as I was in glasses and contacts for over 35 years.
Each individual has to weigh the risk after getting informed and make a personal decision on what he or she is going to do. We're all pretty use to that in this forum. Best of luck.
Gary
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02-02-2010, 06:36 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Ashland, Wi
Posts: 23
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LOVE it
I had Lasik two years ago and couldn't be happier with the results. I paid the big bucks and had the complete laser process, after all these were my eyes. I followed the pre-treatment guidelines religiously as well as the post. As already mentioned, you'll wear good quality sunglasses without fail for a month when outdoors. I have never had a halo or complaint about this surgery. I too am over 40 and was already wearing readers with my contacts, so it was no big deal to use them following.
Had my Third Class a few months ago and had to have a complete eye exam with an endorsement to satisfy my doctor. Flew through it with no problems. Being glasses free and not losing a contact during flight is spectacular!
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02-02-2010, 07:39 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Bay Pines, FL (based @ KCLW)
Posts: 1,955
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiskeyMike
Dan, Can you provide more detail about the implants you received? Thanks!
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I developed cataracts in boths eyes. Not due to LASIK.
Part of this was due to my blue eyes, family history and my sunlight exposure running 50-100 mile ultramarathons.
I was very satisfied with my LASIK. Regarding the implants, the LASIK created a minor issue in that it reshapes the cornea. This makes it a bit more difficult to ideally lock in the right correction for the implants.
My doctor is one of the best in the business and actually was one of the doctors who developed the implant technique. Dr James Gills of Tarpon Springs Florida at the St Lukes Clinic. I had one lens corrected for intermediate range, the 2nd for distance.
This provided me with a good balance in overall range. Now, they have crystal lens which cover the complete range. Your eye is trained to morph the shape of the lens. These were a bit more expensive than I was willing to commit. I do not need correction for near or distance.
Prior to the implants, I needed reading glasses.
The implants are supposed to be good forever. In fact, if the lens gets clouded over time, they laser polish it.
BTW, I'm 57 years old.
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02-02-2010, 09:24 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Flanagan, IL
Posts: 194
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iLasik
I had iLasik performed in August right after Oshkosh. I should have done it a LONG time ago. Like all medical procedures, it has gotten better as tiem goes on. The way it was explained to me (by a optometrist that was at OSH, not by the doctor who did mine) is that they used to cut the flap on your eye with a blade, then reshape with a laser. Now they use a laser to cut the flap, and a laser to reshape the cornea. So there is no blade what so ever. This is the "iLasik",different from "lasik". Difference is more comfort, shorter healing process, and more forgiving of eye movement during cutting.
My experience was A1. Procedure took about 10 minutes, and then doc looked into my eyes with an expensive looking something or other, and said good to go, wear these silly goggles and come back tomorrow. Vision was sharp, but foggy. Went home, told the wife doc said take it easy, and napped on the couch until bedtime. Woke up and went to see the doc, still good. Check ups here and there for a few weeks, and all's well. 20/20 right eye, 20/15 left eye. I can see S#@$ I didn't even know was there. Amazing.
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02-03-2010, 11:02 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 171
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generally good results
I had wavefront ilasik done a couple of years ago (at 40) and the results are generally good, but be sure you know what you're potentially getting yourself into.
I had worn contacts for 25 years (3.75) and could see very well with them, but wanted freedom from needing them all the time. I can now see very well, but do notice that my night vision isn't as good as it used to be. Some halos and starbursts still after a couple of years. The doctor also elected to undercorrect my right eye just a little bit to give me a few more years before needing reading glasses. This is probably the reason I notice more fuzziness at night/at the movies too. I have a prescription to get glasses to help this, but haven't gotten around to getting them yet.
Also, because of an accident where a pilot had one eye corrected for near and another for far vision, the FAA doesn't want you losing your stereo vision and I'd recommend getting both eyes corrected to the same degree, and then just rely on readers when you get to that point. (I'm getting close) I hope my right eye will pass the distance vision test at my next medical!
Overall, I can say that my vision is actually a bit sharper during the daytime but at night is it worse than with contacts.
I was surprised at how dry the surgery made my eyes for the first year. It is better now, and not as bad at the end of the day with contacts, so I'd say overall that isn't an issue anymore. If you have dry eyes now, be careful with lasik. I know of someone else who probably wasn't a good candidate and got lasik anyway and this is a major pain for them.
I also was surprised at how sensitive my eyes were to light (who turned up the sun?) even 6 months after the surgery. This is an uncommon side effect that happens as the cut heals. Now, not really a problem but I feel I need sunglasses more than I used to.
Choose your doctor carefully (get a recommendation from another opthalmologist, not from the newspaper/radio ads!) and don't let them push you to get the procedure if you're not really a good candidate.
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