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View Poll Results: Now that the RV-12 is out the door, what should the next RV be?
Nothing for now - focus on efficiency, cut costs and prices, survive. 209 30.20%
A factory-built version of the RV-12 36 5.20%
The RV-11 Motorglider 120 17.34%
An amphibian 54 7.80%
An updated single-seater 111 16.04%
A twin, using the new IO-233 or Rotax engines 71 10.26%
A turboprop 36 5.20%
A jet! 55 7.95%
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Old 01-21-2010, 05:07 AM
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I'd like to see a fast back option on the RV-8 and for the company to just survive. Too many kit manufacuring companies have gone out of buisness going down the road of too many airplanes too fast.
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Old 01-21-2010, 08:26 AM
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What should they do? Take a break and go fly!

Then come back and keep doing a great job of providing a very high value product. The more RVs out there flying, the better off we (GA) all are.
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VTOL single seat air to air refueler bush plane on floats. They would have the market cornered.
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VTOL single seat air to air refueler bush plane on floats. They would have the market cornered.
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Default I recently saw a Tecnam P2006T Twin

It is a certified airplane, but it has some pretty interesting characteristics:

Twin Rotax 912 (100hp each)

145kt true cruise speed

10gph total at cruise on autogas

About $500k.

Admittedly this is not the right price range for most successful homebuilts, but it shows that a twin Rotax setup is doable.
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Old 01-21-2010, 10:18 AM
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It is a certified airplane, but it has some pretty interesting characteristics:

Twin Rotax 912 (100hp each)

145kt true cruise speed

10gph total at cruise on autogas

About $500k.

Admittedly this is not the right price range for most successful homebuilts, but it shows that a twin Rotax setup is doable.
Here is a twin-Rotax kit plane that beats the Tecnam in every way, and for more realistic home-built prices.

Aerocat Amphibian

On this design you could easily substitute a pair of WAM 120s or Gemini 100/125s (if they are actually in production), or the less expensive 135 HP Jabirus as well. There are lots of engine choices at the low end of the power spectrum...
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Old 04-17-2010, 10:23 AM
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After reading several articles on the Tecnam P2006T, I think this would be an ideal setup for a kit plane. I bet Vans could easily design a platform for dual Rotax's. A twin for the masses! That's my vote.
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Many of these choices (A twin, using the new IO-233 or Rotax engines, A turboprop, A jet) are incongruous with Van?s philosophy ? simple, efficient, cost effective.

How about certification of the RV-10! Every time I fly the RV-10 I?m amazed how much they ?got right?, its efficiency and performance. This did not work out so well for Lancair/Columbia but their philosophy is soooo much different from Van?s.

For now though I think he should ?go to Disney world.? When he gets back, update the 7/8/9 kit plans to the same format as the 10 & 12, then he can start looking into certification of the 10 to compete with Cirrus, Cessna, et al.
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I agree with W1Curtis. Take a break. Travel a bit. See the country. Smell the roses.

Then fix the plans. I am helping a guy with an RV-8A quickbuild and looking at the fuselage part of the plans it will take a lot of time to understand what to do.
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Then fix the plans. I am helping a guy with an RV-8A quickbuild and looking at the fuselage part of the plans it will take a lot of time to understand what to do.
It must be an older vintage kit. The 8 (and 8A) plans issued with all fuselage kits since the -1 kit came out (about 4 years ago) have a point in the manual that says "If building from a Q.B. kit start here" (or something like that).
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