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12-27-2009, 05:32 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Alabama
Posts: 4,301
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Originally Posted by jeffmoreau
I thought that some of you would like to see what the fire did to my upper and lower cowling.
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That looks bad, but I believe there is enough remaining to use as a template for drilling the new cowl for camlocks. 
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12-27-2009, 11:23 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: WV
Posts: 33
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You've suffered a setback. A very small setback.
Just be glad that wasn't your "cowling mold" as opposed to your cowling. I know this doesn't apply to RV's but some builders/designers have had to make a cowling mold from scratch. Then do layups inside the scratch built cowling mold to fabricate the cowling itself. Talk about hours invested. Buying a replacement cowling from Van's and doing the fitting pales in comparison. Ditto for the other fiberglass parts you lost.
Concentrate on what it's going to feel like flying your own plane and you'll be fine.
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12-28-2009, 01:14 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 5,685
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You are vulnerable
Maybe this is the time to consider a Sam James cowl? Whatever your recovery path is, I think you need to consider the lack of favorable pricing your airplane will demand now compared to what it will be if you finish it and then offer it up for sale. If you have $100,000 invested already the wise thing to do would be salvage the remains and convert it into something of high value. No potential buyer is going to blissfully accept that the plastic parts were destroyed and EVERYTHING else is OK - the proof is in the seeing and operating and you can't offer that in your current situation. From your comments I think you are already leaning that way and It makes a lot of practical sense.
Bob Axsom
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12-28-2009, 06:23 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 180
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I will see it through.
Thank you to everyone that responded to my original post. I have decided that I will press on and finish every last piece of this aircraft.
As soon as I am financially able to replace all of the parts, the construction will begin once again. I thank all of you for your very kind words of support and offers for help. I wish everyone a happy new year. I have a vision that the "Phoenix" will fly in 2010.
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Jeff Moreau
RV 8A
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EAA Technical Counselor
Virginia Beach, VA
Last edited by jeffmoreau : 12-28-2009 at 08:23 AM.
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12-28-2009, 07:04 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Huskerland, USA
Posts: 5,862
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Originally Posted by jeffmoreau
Thank you to everyone that responded to my original post. I have decided that I will press on and finish every last piece of this aircraft.
As soon as I am financially able to replace all of the parts, the construction will begin once again. Once again, I thank all of you for your very kind words of support and offers for help. I wish everyone a happy new year. I have a vision that the "Phoenix" will fly in 2010.
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Good news Jeff. Keep us posted on the "Flight if the Phoenix". 
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RV-7 : In the hangar
RV-10 : In the hangar
RV-12 : Built and sold
RV-44 : 4 place helicopter on order.
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12-28-2009, 07:33 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Arlington, WA
Posts: 799
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Great!
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I have a vision that the "Phoenix" will fly in 2010.
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Best news I've heard this entire weekend! Looking forward to hearing about your successes!
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Scott "Grumpy" Stewart
RV-7 N957RV (First Flight on Dec 18, 2009 )
RV-14 N144P (Empennage complete, wings almost complete, fuselage almost complete)
#866 on the Van's RV-7 hobbs
#6563 on Van's generic hobbs
Arlington, WA
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12-28-2009, 07:41 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Yorktown, VA
Posts: 139
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I'll Help!
Jeff,
Just heard the news. Let me know when and I'll come down and lend a hand. You and I need to get our aircraft in the air this year. We have to keep the RV corner of the chapter going strong! See you at the meeting next week!
Kent
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[size="1"]RV-7A
TMX-IO-360w/ P-Mags, Hartzell CS Prop, Slider,
Dual Garmin G3X Touch w/ GTN-650
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12-28-2009, 10:46 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 937
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffmoreau
Thank you to everyone that responded to my original post. I have decided that I will press on and finish every last piece of this aircraft.
As soon as I am financially able to replace all of the parts, the construction will begin once again. I thank all of you for your very kind words of support and offers for help. I wish everyone a happy new year. I have a vision that the "Phoenix" will fly in 2010.
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Congratulations Jeff. I wanted to hurl when I read your original post and saw your pictures. I know there are a couple of things I would do differently (better) if I had to do my cowl over again. The first time, you just don't know how everything is supposed to fit and look until its done, and it takes hours and hours to get there because you're solving each and every little puzzle that comes up along the way. Mine right now is the fit of the inlet ramps and ducts. I've spent hours looking at other builders' websites. If I had to do it all again I bet it could be done in 20 or 30% of the time, and with higher quality. Yes there are some tricks you will have to use because the camlocs are no longer matched, but there are techniques for dealing with this. I'm sure Bill R. and others on here can advise you on how to deal with this.
Best of Luck, keep us informed on your progress.
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Noah F, RV-7A
All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men? for they may act their dream with open eyes, to make it possible. -T.E. Lawrence
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12-28-2009, 07:45 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
Posts: 474
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Not 2010 yet!
Hey Kent, you'd better get moving if you and Jeff are going to get your planes in the air this year- only 3 building days left
Those of us in Jeff's EAA chapter 339 have no intention of letting him get rid of his plane without finishing it- then he can decide if he can really part with it. I know that after my first flight 2 weeks ago, Jeff was about ready to wrap up and get his in the air. He really was only 2-4 weeks out. The difficult part is that those of you who don't know Jeff, also don't know what a craftsman he is. The plane is bound to be an award winner. My second attempt would be much quicker, but Jeff's will still be considerably longer than most as he will not settle for anything less than perfect. He has plenty of people ready to help though. I'm sure he also appreciates the support of everyone at VAF. You will all appreciate meeting him when he does get the
8A flying. The other story you don't know about Jeff is that he flies right seat on a Hawker jet for his day job- and just went through an engine failure a couple of weeks ago. Been a busy holiday season!
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Virginia Beach
RV-6A (only took 13 years to build  )
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12-28-2009, 09:09 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Pearland, TX
Posts: 391
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Originally Posted by jeffmoreau
Thank you to everyone that responded to my original post. I have decided that I will press on and finish every last piece of this aircraft.
As soon as I am financially able to replace all of the parts, the construction will begin once again. I thank all of you for your very kind words of support and offers for help. I wish everyone a happy new year. I have a vision that the "Phoenix" will fly in 2010.
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The best thing I've read this whole thread! Keep it up! I wanted to sell my kit due to a friend having an accident in his RV. Everyone kept me going in the right direction and said that you would regret that decision if you do! I've dreamed for many many years of building my own airplane and I am so glad I have supportive friends and family! Keep building, you'll thank yourself later!!
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Stephen Johnston ~ Pearland, TX
RV-3B EMP
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