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Old 11-23-2009, 07:59 PM
gciampa gciampa is offline
 
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Default Kindle 2 versus Kindle DX

Hey folks,

looking at the threads related to the Kindle, seems there are pro and cons associated witht he Kindle line; Question for those folks that have used both the Kindle 2 and Kindle DX:

Does the Kindle 2 provide enough screen real-estate to view approach plates in an single pilot IMC environment?

Of course, BIGGER is always better, but, is the Kindle 2 just as satisfying for the mission? :-)

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Old 11-24-2009, 12:39 AM
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Default Kindle 2 vs Kindle DX.

The Kindle 2 is not useful in my opinion for approach plates as they are just not usable on it. The DX is the way to go and you will not be disappointed. It rocks for plates.
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Old 11-24-2009, 01:53 PM
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Default Sony 900..

I called flightguide yesterday because I saw on their website that they offer the flightguide as an e book for the Kindle and the sony 505 and prs 600. Also, you can purchase the government approach plates that will be integrated with the flight guide. A new feature coming out is that this version will also have AVGAS prices embedded with the airport.

Anyway, she said that there were some problems with the way the kindle navigated, and the sony was better. Also, sometimes the kindle will go into a screen saver mode, a bad event in the final aproach segment. She suggested waiting for the new sony touch screen reader PRS 900 coming out next month. It will have a more or less full approach plate size. Maybe someone who knows more about the subject could enlighten us some more.
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Old 11-25-2009, 09:06 AM
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I am holding out for the Nook from Barns and Noble. Looks like it will a great platform for approach plates. PDF search function and book marks
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Old 11-25-2009, 02:17 PM
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Amazon has just announced native PDF support for the Kindle 2, which is good, and the stuff we have at www.pdfplates.com work on it. Hugh is correct, though, that the screen is much smaller, and older eyes may not be too satisfied with it. There are some pics here of PDFPlates on the Kindle2.

http://twitpic.com/qwb3p

and

http://twitpic.com/qwb9o

As for the screen saver issues, the new firmware released today changes the timeout to 20 minutes, and there are hacks you can find to set that wherever you like. I have my DX set to 60 minutes.

The Kindle's navigation isn't as good as the sony. But one advantage the K2 might have over the DX is that it has dedicated number keys, you don't have to hold down the shift key. For what it is worth, Amazon does have a generous return policy so you can try for a little while.

Seems like everyone is coming out with an eInk based reader these days. There are so many choices, and by first quarter of next year there will be even more.

Feel free to drop me a line, admin<at>pdfplates.com with any questions.
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Old 11-25-2009, 05:27 PM
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thanks.....all good information, the twit pictures of the K2 in landscape mode appear to be readable/usable.

I will have to see about laying my hands on one for a test;

I went by B&N a fews ago, before the Nook was available, too many choices, not enough money. :-)
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Old 11-26-2009, 09:01 AM
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A PDFPlates.com user posted this video of the Kindle 2 in use.

http://twitvid.com/37276
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Old 11-26-2009, 07:34 PM
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Jim how do you in vision your plates to work on the NOOK?
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Old 11-26-2009, 07:41 PM
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Well, they claim native pdf support so we'll see. They don't have one yet in my local B&N so I haven't tried it. Hoping for table of contents support but some things I read on their forums were not promising.

That is a big thing missing from the Kindle so one would expect they would try to one up Amazon. My expectation is that they will work at least as well, just on a smaller screen. What I am finding from so many users is that as we get up in age the small screens just don't cut it.
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Old 12-20-2009, 03:11 PM
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Have you been able to look at the Nook yet?
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