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11-03-2009, 05:26 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Newport, TN
Posts: 7,496
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The serial ports are interfaced with that custom plug on the back of the unit. It's mate is built into the mount.
I will be curious to see how Airgizmo deals with this.....
I sure hope Airgizmo makes a mount that will fit in the same hole as their existing X96 mount.
They specifically mention compatibility with TIS data so there must be ports back there!
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Originally Posted by 638RS
From the description of the available jacks and outputs it seems the unit does not have the ability to drive an auto pilot.
Hope I'm wrong...
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Last edited by Brantel : 11-03-2009 at 05:30 AM.
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11-03-2009, 05:29 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Newport, TN
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Looks to be the same screen.....
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Originally Posted by RudiGreyling
I hope the direct sunlight readability increased compared to my Nuvi 200W I have for my car. My car Nuvi is terrible in direct sun when the top is down, I don't know about it under an open RV canopy??? Anybody know about direct sunlight readibility?
Rudi
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11-03-2009, 10:09 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Mendon South Carolina
Posts: 1,391
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 638RS
From the description of the available jacks and outputs it seems the unit does not have the ability to drive an auto pilot.
Hope I'm wrong...
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A quick review of the user manual suggests it has all of the outputs of the 496.
It specifically mentions an ability to output frequencies to the SL30 and connect with traffic devices.
The logic and menus appear consistent with the x96 series so if you can use them this should not be a difficult transition.
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11-03-2009, 01:28 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Newport, TN
Posts: 7,496
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 638RS
From the description of the available jacks and outputs it seems the unit does not have the ability to drive an auto pilot.
Hope I'm wrong...
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Page 140 in the manual. The connector on the back can interface with an optional flying lead cable.
The setup options seem to have the same options as the older units.
Should not be a problem.....
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11-04-2009, 05:51 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: South Africa, Johannesburg
Posts: 1,313
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Originally Posted by w1curtis
I would have hoped that they would have based their first touch screen unit on the marine GPSMAP 600 series unit. The 600 has a bigger screen and a longer battery life. I hope it has TWO separate serial ports, in addition to the XM USB port.
This unit is about the same size as the auto based Nuvi 800 series.
http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...550#post267550
Aera 500 (5.3 x 3.3 x 0.9, screen 3.8 x 2.25, 480x272 pixel, 9.5 oz, 5 hour battery)
GPS Map 600 (5.9 x 4 x 1.9, screen 4.5 x 2.7, 800x480 pixel, 17.3 oz, 9 hour battery)

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Yes that 600 screen resulotion looks awesome.
The new Aera has less pixels than the 296/396 it replaces.
Guess if they came it with the 600 screen resolution for lower end units, it would have been competition for the recently launced 696. So they pegged it for the low resolutions. Lucky I am 12 months away before I need a new GPS, so lets keep our fingers crossed.
Regards
Rudi
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"Science, freedom, beauty, adventure...what more could you ask of life? Aviation offers it all" - Charles A. Lindbergh
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11-04-2009, 11:37 AM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: salem Oregon
Posts: 1,023
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New Garmin handheld.
That Marine version would have been a no brainer to keep costs down use what you have. But the Nuvii! After last weeks annoucement in the business section of Garmins stock going down because now GPS will be offered FREE in the new CELL PHONES this year. So this wasn't about a better unit for aviators it was about $ and thats OK to keep people working.But stay with quality! Maybe TOM-TOM will get into aviation GPS with the PILOT in mind. My av8or is first gen and it looks like it. Graphics childs play. Lets get with it people, good graphics a MUST! Subscriptions for plates, come on don't knock our legs out from under us! $$$$$$$. XM weather maybe, @ $10 a month for a 6-month subscription for VFR people whom want to know but not to fly in it. I think its about time Advanced or GRT or Dynon build a Handheld that doesn't ROB us! After all in the lastest issue of AOPA there is a website for free IFR approach plates for your download pleasure of your state that was formed after learning the subscription rates for his GPS unit would require a partime job! If Garmin would follow their course with the Golf GPS we can avoid bunkers,(MNTS) Water hazards.(soft-fields) Trees(Trees) and put it in the hole(Airport) with all the confidence that Garmin has in the past with a whole lot less from the Wallet.
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11-05-2009, 12:58 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Palm Bay, FL
Posts: 420
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Keeping my 296
I did not like the fact that the new units won't work with older Jepp database info. The GPS 296 is no longer offered by Garmin now that the Aera is here. The GPS 296 has TWO serial ports via the same data power cable that fits 396 and 496 units which have only one RS-232. The Aera has a new data power interface plug, so the older data power cable will have to be replaced in your panel.
I helped a friend wire up his 396 to his Dynon D-10A, Trio autopilot, SL-30 NAV/COM, and GTX-330 for TIS. It all works on ONE RS-232 serial port. The GTX-330 is the only one sending data to the GPS, the others all listen to the output from the GPS. Trying to send radio frequencies to the SL-30 from the GPS did not sit well with the Trio autopilot.
Another thing that ticked me off was trying to find the Garmin web page to download the Jepp data base for my 296. I had to call customer service to find the page. I have it bookmarked now. The NEW Fly Garmin web pages will download directly to the GPS from the browser window, but a plug-in for the browser is required. That plug-in will not work with Win2000. You have to have XP or later running on your computer.
Here is the link to the old database download web page:
http://shop.garmin.com/aviation/databases/
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Built in East Ridge, TN.
Now in Palm Bay, Florida
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Last edited by n2prise : 11-05-2009 at 01:00 PM.
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11-05-2009, 03:01 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Glendale, AZ
Posts: 65
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New aera 510
I just got the 510 and really like it over all. IMO the 560's extra features are not worth the $$$ just the same as the 496. Also, Typing in turbulence has not been too bad so far.
+ BIG PLUS for me is the fact I can pop it right off the mount and toss it in my flight bag. No wires to mess with like the -96's.
- I can't seem to use the user waypoints....no direct to, no flight plan, and etc.....must be a bug. I can create and edit, but can't do anything with them.
- There is no Flight Plan editing on the map...would be nice.
Jason Krause
www.JDAir.com
Last edited by Jason Krause : 11-05-2009 at 03:54 PM.
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11-05-2009, 03:51 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 180
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Originally Posted by Jason Krause
I just got the 510 and really like it over all. IMO the 560's extra features are not worth the $$$ just the same as the 496.
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Jason,
Thanks for the hands-on update!
I've sorta planned on a 496 for some time but don't expect to need it for 3-6 months, so the Aeras have caught my eye. My primary wants are:
- handheld backup to panel 430W, feeding 2nd input of GRT Sport and switchable to TT VSGV autopilot
- XM weather
- XM music
- final layer of backup flight instruments if both GRT & TT go TU
It seems to me that the 560 really only adds:
- SafeTaxi
- AOPA Airport Directory
- better terrain resolution
- a few street/driving enhancements that I'm not concerned about
Am I missing something / can you comment on that? I'm particularly curious as to whether you think it would be a superior choice to a 496 for my mission? How do you like the screen resolution in comparison to the -96's?
Thanks,
George
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Tucson, AZ - RV-7 Standard Build
Empennage Completed 1/06, Wings Completed 11/06, Fuselage Done 9/08, Panel Wiring Done 7/19. About to haul it to the airport.
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11-05-2009, 04:19 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Glendale, AZ
Posts: 65
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George
The 496/560 over 396/510 may really be useful for somebody, just not for me in my very frequent long and short VFR outings.
SafeTaxi....seems anything but. Looking at the GPS while taxing is probably a bad idea. It just seems I never had the time on the ground to utilize it.
AOPA Directory is OK. But a little preflight on the iPhone before I go works just as well. Not to mention airports are not too hard to navigate and the more difficult ones usually have a tower willing to help.
Terrain Res.....I really don’t see much difference between the two. If you see red (terrain map doom) and can't see out the window....probably shouldn't be there anyway and couldn’t/shouldn't rely on it anyhow.
Also I think update speed is a bit faster on the HSI page. It's claimed this could "almost" be used as a back up in IMC or something of the sort....again not needed or practical in my situation.
The resolution between the two at the dash distance appears the same.
Were you wanting more of compare between 496/560 units or the 510/560?
Jason Krause
www.JDAir.com
Last edited by Jason Krause : 11-05-2009 at 04:23 PM.
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