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10-29-2009, 09:04 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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I agree with Mike, too. I have both Snap-On and Craftsmen. The Snap-Ons are worth it in this instance.
If you'll notice, on the Sears flex sockets, the faces inside the socket do not go clear down to the bottom of the socket. I have had that cause a problem in some cases where the nut gets down there and just spins with out tightening or loosening; however, I swear by Craftsmen tools and only have some particular ones from Snap-On and Matco.
For this application, the SNAP-ON flex sockets seem to be the best alternative.
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10-29-2009, 10:47 AM
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I have more than a few good quality sockets cut to smaller OD's on the lathe, mostly 1/4 and 3/8 drive. Some were also cut to special lengths. When you need a tool, make a tool.
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10-29-2009, 10:51 AM
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Snap-on>Sears for those sockets... but at well over double the price. I put a normal 1/4 drive sears socket on a lathe and turned it down until it fit.....
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10-29-2009, 11:21 AM
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I will be keeping track of how much it's going to cost me to tighten two freakin' bolts here, fellas! 
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10-29-2009, 11:24 AM
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Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Collins
I will be keeping track of how much it's going to cost me to tighten two freakin' bolts here, fellas! 
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Better idea is to consider how much it could cost you if they come loose at the wrong time 
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10-29-2009, 11:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Collins
I will be keeping track of how much it's going to cost me to tighten two freakin' bolts here, fellas! 
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Gonna cost me too Bob - this thread reminds me that the last time I had to tighten exhaust nuts, I was sharing a hangar with my A&P/IA friend....and I used his sockets. One of these days, I guess I'm gonna have to buy one for myself! 
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10-29-2009, 12:38 PM
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Bob
Stop by the hanger, I used a 10 inch socket extension and it worked fine on my vetterman. you can borrow it.
Vince
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10-29-2009, 01:08 PM
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Location: Sherwood, Oregon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Collins
I will be keeping track of how much it's going to cost me to tighten two freakin' bolts here, fellas! 
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Take a 1/4-20 screw, drop it through the socket, and nut it tight. Chuck it in a drill, spin it up, and hold it to your grinder.
In a few minutes work you have a nice thin wall socket.
Cheap, and nearly easier to do than to describe.
Re-chroming the socket is optional. 
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10-29-2009, 02:35 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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the cheap Chinese sockets are thinner and will fit tight places.
There is also someting called a 'wobble' extension. Its essentially a normal 1/4 or 3/8 extension with the male end ground (ouch) down to allow the socket to wobble as it rotates.
These will work when a universal won't fit in the close places.
You can also make one with a dremel and a disk and a 4 inch socket extension.
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10-29-2009, 04:28 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: SE Florida
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Thank you sir!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Collins
Here's a problem I've encountered when installing the very excellent Vetterman system on my RV-7A. I can't get to the inside bolts on cylinders 3 and 4 to tighten them, let alone torque them properly.
There must be a secret here.
Watch my video here for a further explanation.
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Bob,
First, the problem is that you don't have the correct tools. Second, they make special "jet" nuts with an undersized hex for tight places like you have there. I think you can avoid buying swivel sockets. A standard 1/2" shallow [or deep if needed] socket, in 1/4" drive should work. The real trick is to buy yourself a "wobble" 1/4" drive extension, about 6" long. A wobble extension allows you to pivot the extension at the socket by 15 degrees in any direction. The best part is that the extension will work with all the sockets in your 1/4" drive set.  The "wobble" extension differs at the male end that goes into the socket. The square male end is actually diamond shaped. This is what allows it to pivot. For a photo see:
http://www.craftsman.com/shc/s/p_101...bble+extension
http://s.sears.com/is/image/Sears/00...sm=0.9,0.5,0,0
Next, they make "jet" exhaust nuts which have an undersized hex [7/16" hex rather than 1/2" hex for a 5/16" stud]. As a "thank you" for your efforts producing the "RV HOTLINE", I would like to send you a set of these "jet" nuts for your exhaust system, free of charge. Just send me a private message or an email with a mailing address and I will be happy to send you a complete set. Jet nuts are MS21042 and you can see what they look like here:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...es/MS21042.php
Charlie Kuss
PS We N.Y. Yankee fans know about tools and stuff! 
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