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Old 10-24-2009, 01:35 PM
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Default Oh, one more thing

And for VFR flying, I think I would prefer my heading at the top of the screen in the traditional "HUD" view (as current D10A/D100/D180's are setup) vs the compass rose beneath. For IFR, having a full HSI below would be good, but I wouldn't want it there all the time. Please explain the reason for the change, and is that "the way it is" or is it user configurable?

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Old 10-24-2009, 07:39 PM
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Default vertical configuration

Can your unit be set up in a vertical configuration, like the garmin G3X?
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:45 AM
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We cannot do a vertical orientation. LCD screens are designed to be viewed from certain angles, and the vast majority of them out there are designed to be viewed the traditional landscape orientation. If you take our screen and look at it from below, it doesn't perform well. This doesn't matter in a panel since you are always above the screen. If we put it on it's side, this would be the left or right.

Garmin is fortunate enough to be able to buy in such large volumes that they can purchase screens oriented any way they want, but if you remember when they first showed off the G600, it had horrible left/right viewing angles until they had a totally custom screen made to fix this. They showed off the poor left/right angles for well over a year before they got custom screens made.

It's also an advantage with synthetic vision to have the widest possible screen since it mimics the natural human field of view.
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:49 AM
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Troy,
We changed to the HSI on screen because that is a standard in all avionics today, and it means that the ability to display an HSI and PFD at the same time are designed right into the system from the beginning. Many people prefer to see a full compass rose rather than just a few degrees of it, so this helps even people that don't use it as an HSI.

For now that is "the way it is", but if we have a lot of requests for the heading tape at the top we could support that in a future software release. I think you'll find that if you use the system for navigation at all, the HSI right on the PFD is really the way you want it.
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Old 10-26-2009, 02:27 PM
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Troy,

The main reason to switch from the EFIS-D180 to the SkyView is the improved situational awareness afforded by Synthetic Vision and the terrain Moving Map. There are also many user-interface and user-configuration improvements with SkyView, and the built-in redundancy in the SkyView System and Network make SkyView an industry-leading product. And SkyView incorporates newer hardware technologies that will allow us to add advanced features for years to come. That being said, there is nothing wrong with your current panel and we will continue selling the EFIS-D180.

If you do decide to upgrade, the components of the EFIS-D180 that are compatible with SkyView are the engine sensor kits, pitot tubes, and autopilot servos, so in many ways the upgrade will be easy. The rest of the components, such as Remote Compass, cannot be used with SkyView. The SkyView 7" display is slightly larger than the EFIS-D180, so the hole in your panel will have to be enlarged. You will have to rewire the primary harness, and run SkyView Network Cables between modules. You will need a SkyView Engine Module which can mount somewhere up near the firewall, on the "cool side". And a new SkyView ADAHRS module which contains the Remote Compass and Air Data System, so your pitot, static, and angle of attack pneumatic lines will have to be routed to it. Our Beta testers have been able to make the switch pretty easily.

For SkyView, for now, your Garmin 430 will act more like a handheld GPS. Which means you can connect via a serial line and obtain GPS position, velocity data, and basic waypoint information. You will not be able to utilize the more advanced GPS features of the G430 via SkyView, such as auto scaling of the CDI needle, vertical guidance, GPS steering (the ability for an autopilot to "cut corners", and not just fly to a waypoint and then turn), or virtual VORs. You will also not be able to use any of the NAV radio features of the 430, such as a VOR, ILS, or glideslope. All of this data comes over ARINC-429.

It is correct that SkyView has HSI control knobs and annunciators already "built-in", and the existing HS34 Module will not work with SkyView. Along with control knobs and annuciators, the other purpose of the HS34 is to provide an ARINC-429 conversion. SkyView will not have the ARINC-429 capability initially, and will require an interface module to be added later. This new SkyView ARINC-429 module will hide behind the panel. ARINC-429 supports the advanced GPS features as well as the only possible connection to the 430 NAV radio. So as you mentioned, in order to fully utilize your Garmin 430 with SkyView you will have to wait for the new SkyView ARINC-429 module.

I hope that helps! I'm afraid I could not answer without getting into some technical details.

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Old 10-26-2009, 03:11 PM
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Default Location of ADAHRS module

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And a new SkyView ADAHRS module which contains the Remote Compass and Air Data System, so your pitot, static, and angle of attack pneumatic lines will have to be routed to it. Our Beta testers have been able to make the switch pretty easily.

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Any insights about where your BETA testers have been mounting the ADAHRS module? Since it includes the magnetometer, I would think it would be more challenging to find a good spot.
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Old 10-26-2009, 03:21 PM
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I believe they've all put it where the magnetometer goes today- which on an RV is almost always right behind the baggage bulkhead. A bonus here is that the static line is already right there. This location seems to get heading within a few degrees even without any magnetic calibration run.
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Old 10-26-2009, 09:20 PM
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So the SkyView and the AP will not be able to receive steering commands from a 430W?
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Old 10-27-2009, 10:33 AM
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Jeff,
Not when it first releases, but when we release the ARINC module it will be able to. The ARINC module is one of the first things we'll work on after the initial release.
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We will have parts for thousands of units, and our intention is to have plenty of completed units on the shelf when we start taking orders, so there should not be a delay for anyone. You will have to order quite a few to exceed our production rates. But go ahead and try.

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I must be the lucky one then. I placed my order 28 Nov, only to be told yesterday, Skyview parts on back order. ( with a dealer )
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