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Old 10-21-2009, 10:41 AM
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Yeah, that just makes me mad.

Go get an instrument ticket. It just isn't as big a deal as a lot of people say. Especially when you have your own airplane to stay current with.
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Old 10-21-2009, 11:00 AM
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This video reminds me of that old Far Side cartoon, "Say, what's a mountain goat doing up here in this cloud bank".

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Old 10-21-2009, 11:26 AM
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Default Fancy avionics are great...

but they definitely don't replace common sense and safety. What an idiot. VFR into IMC, one of the leading killers of pilots and he did it anyway. He was only concerned with looking cool and confident in front of his buddies...he could care less about following the rules and looking out for their safety.
Why do Cirrus Design aircraft have such a high accident rate? My flight instructor told me, "they are so advanced that people forget stick and rudder and common sense." They fly their planes into conditions not suited for the plane or pilot and they crash, Cirrus gets sued, pays millions, and aviation looks bad. This type of behavior is BAD for all of us. I know the plane in question is not a Cirrus, its a Beechcraft. But say they did crash. The spouses and lawyers would have sued Beechcraft, Garmin, every manufacturer of every part on the plane, the Owner of the Albatross, etc, etc, etc. It costs everyone money (not to mention lives) and makes GA look bad. For a pilot stupid enough to fly VFR into IMC, have a brush with death and then post it on youtube, they should pull his ticket.
THERE ARE OLD PILOTS AND BOLD PILOTS BUT NO OLD BOLD PILOTS.

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Old 10-21-2009, 02:19 PM
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Unhappy No good

My guess is that that video will (or already has been) removed from You Tube for legal reasons. When I saw this last night, I got a chill as those people escaped death by maybe 5 or 10'? Grace of God.

(IMHO, the 'pilot' needs to find a new hobby and never fly again. Maybe something safe like painting as he has used up all of his 'luck'. And his 'friends' need to say goodbye to him forever, praise God, and realize how graced and 'lucky' they are. Simple as that. This is not something that any of us can laugh about.)
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Old 10-21-2009, 02:43 PM
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Default Similar stuff, different ending

A pilot friend died last June in a Bonanza: New pilot with lots of money, looking to buy a Bonanza, flew it into a building. This video reminds me that a lot of pilots do things to be cool, like fly into IMC and laugh about it, or get in over thier heads because they have the money to do it. I remember a P51 crash at camarillo a few years ago; another one with more money that sense.
I remember a saying from an ethics teacher that applies here, "Just because you can... doesn't mean its right".
The sadest part is that he almost took three others with him. Scary.

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Old 10-21-2009, 03:43 PM
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Everyday going to and from my office I pass a graveyard. Right next to the corner nearest to the road is five graves with the same day of death. Local guy got his license (barely) and got a Bonanza. On Thanksgiving day he started out with the family to visit his sister in Knoxville, TN. He was warned by a local instructor that it was pretty much IMC everywhere he wanted to go. He stated that he wanted to go up and just look around. Flight was launched into IMC and just west of Knoxville he augered in while scud running in the mountains. Now I think about that situation everyday as I pass them by. Soooooooo preventable.
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Old 10-21-2009, 04:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aarvig View Post
THERE ARE OLD PILOTS AND BOLD PILOTS BUT NO OLD BOLD PILOTS.
Well, Chuck Yeager comes to mind as one of the exceptions to this rule. Actually, I would modify the axiom to read that "there are old pilots and dumb pilots, but no old AND dumb pilots"!

It has been said that flying is not inherently dangerous, but terribly unforgiving of mistakes and poor judgement. Clearly the incident in the video is an "over the top" example of both a mistake and poor judgement on the part of the pilot, and all of the occupants were extremely fortunate to have survived! Talk about a hairraising example of what NOT to do...
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Old 10-21-2009, 04:21 PM
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If I was a passenger in this situation I would beat the Sh_t out of the SOB and never talk to him again. PIC means being responsible for the passengers and the aircraft. Stupid people should walk, not fly!!
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Old 10-21-2009, 04:31 PM
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Default John, I think your on to something here...

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If I was a passenger in this situation I would beat the Sh_t out of the SOB and never talk to him again.
I would have made sure that the pilot at least looked as damaged as the airplane.

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Old 10-21-2009, 04:41 PM
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lots of lessons here:
unfortunately most are not pretty

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