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Old 09-15-2009, 10:42 AM
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The data may be there, but the TT does not know how to "read" it - thus my comment "...in a format which the TT understands."

I rather suspect that due to competition from vendors such as yourselves they will rectify that in the future. When they do, I would be grateful if they offer it as an upgrade for my Digiflight II VSGV. I should then be able to install a switch to select between GPS and VOR/LOC from my GNS 480, since my Dynon EFIS does not provide the nifty interpreter feature to drive my existing autopilot the way other vendors do...



Competition is a wonderful thing!
Ask, and ye shall receive. We are finalizing the casing design and waiting on the boards for our ARINC module. This will allow our EFIS to display the VOR/LOC from the 430. It will also allow the EFIS AP IV to use that info for navigation, glideslope, etc. As for other products receiving this capability....who knows.

The module should be available in 2-3 weeks and will cost between $200-$250. Thanks all!
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Old 09-15-2009, 11:27 AM
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It will also allow the EFIS AP IV to use that info for navigation, glideslope, etc.
Great news!!! As an EFIS AP IV owner with a 430W I look forward to the update!
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Old 09-16-2009, 01:37 PM
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Ask, and ye shall receive. We are finalizing the casing design and waiting on the boards for our ARINC module. This will allow our EFIS to display the VOR/LOC from the 430. It will also allow the EFIS AP IV to use that info for navigation, glideslope, etc. As for other products receiving this capability....who knows.

The module should be available in 2-3 weeks and will cost between $200-$250. Thanks all!
EDIT - disregard if you saw my original post, can't keep the vendors straight in my head...



Are you saying that it will convert the ARINC VOR/ILS/LOC from my GNS 480 and thus allow me to fly a coupled ILS approach?

What else will this do? Will it transition me from a GPS - ILS automatically?

We want more news!!!!


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Old 09-18-2009, 07:47 AM
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EDIT - disregard if you saw my original post, can't keep the vendors straight in my head...



Are you saying that it will convert the ARINC VOR/ILS/LOC from my GNS 480 and thus allow me to fly a coupled ILS approach?

What else will this do? Will it transition me from a GPS - ILS automatically?

We want more news!!!!

I have been looking at buying the TT EFIS with IV AP. I only have a miserly 430 non W. From what I have been told even with the new interface TT will not allow for a fully coupled approach. Only localizer. I would still have to hand fly the G/S. Too bad as I really want the ability to fly fully coupled.
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Old 09-18-2009, 12:32 PM
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I have been looking at buying the TT EFIS with IV AP. I only have a miserly 430 non W. From what I have been told even with the new interface TT will not allow for a fully coupled approach. Only localizer. I would still have to hand fly the G/S. Too bad as I really want the ability to fly fully coupled.
I wouldn't be so quick to form an opinion of that; here is why. LOC/ILS approaches are now outnumbered by GPS/GPSS approaches, and the former are being decomissioned while the latter are growing in number.

With the TT II VSG (no vertical coupling, but vertical speed select) the autopilot can approximate a perfect ILS. Just dial in the course as you intercept the LOC, and make small 1-2 degree corrections for wind as necessary. Once intercepting the glideslope, punch in 500fpm descent. If your trend is low, decrease by 100fpm - reverse that for trending high.

Is that a perfect solution? NO! However, I've tried that in really gusty wind conditions for fun (because the Digiflight will NOT fly the ILS coupled) and it works like a champ - smoother than I can fly it. According to field reports the Dynon does not <YET> have a vertical speed select considered "reliable in chop" (and when did you ever fly an approach in smooth soup?). So that leaves you with NO precision approach capability in the Dynon today (they are working on it, it will come).

Both vendors will improve their solutions - I am a supporter of BOTH Dynon and TT, and not promoting either. But neither does EXACTLY what you want just yet (check out the TT forum, I'm giving them grief about not creating an ARINC converter to make the Digiflight series capable of LOC/ILS). Too, if you choose later to upgrade your 430 to a "W," TT will upgrade the VSG to the VSGV for the difference in cost - giving you fully coupled precision GPS approaches.

Hope that muddies the water for you! Both have their plusses and minuses, and it is good to know EXACTLY what you are buying.
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Old 09-18-2009, 03:32 PM
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I have been looking at buying the TT EFIS with IV AP. I only have a miserly 430 non W. From what I have been told even with the new interface TT will not allow for a fully coupled approach. Only localizer. I would still have to hand fly the G/S. Too bad as I really want the ability to fly fully coupled.
Hi Jeff,

I believe we spoke on the phone earlier today. I think we ended the conversation before I was able to clarify.

The EFIS AP IV WILL be able to fly a coupled approach with the ARINC module from a non-WAAS 430. The software is not available yet for that feature. There could be some small changes to the way it works, but OVERALL it will do it.
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