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Old 08-02-2009, 12:19 AM
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Default Pricey

Yes, I too am turned off by the prices of these units. I understand that R&D for new products is expensive, but are these units worth the high price for the average builder? I started this thread in the hope of high reviews by the RV building public, but it appears the high reviews dont come anywhere near the high price to justify a purchase at this point.

Thank you for the replies.
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:27 AM
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Default LED's

One of my main purposes for Osh this year was LED lighting. I was probably between booths 4 or 5 times to evaluate. I agree the sales pitch was there and probably a little more so at Aero but not too bad. After all, they are there to sell and many are completely unfamiliar with this technology.

So, after careful evaluation considering cost, functionality over all quality, I selected the Aveo product. Although both are excellent, here's why.

The Aveo Position lights/strobe combo is completely sealed in a hard acrylic. They were whacking this against the booth. No chance of moisture intrusion. It is a very solid unit. Slightly heavier but nominal. I don't have my note sheet in front of me so I can't compare the price. Life time guarantee.

What ended up selling me on Aveo is the combination landing light/taxi light. This is all one unit. They are developing a mounting system for this specifically RV's to mount in the wing tip cutout. The position lights mount to this fixture making a simple easy unit.

The landing light comes in either a 2 LED or 4 LED. They said it was new LED that just became available and they developed the landing light/taxi light in 90 days. THEY ARE BRIGHT. The 2 LED running at partial power was greater than my Duckworks. The 4 LED is off the chart. If fact, the person I was working with said they were asked not to turn on the 4 LED in the booth. At 25% power they were more than bright enough for normal operation.

The taxi lights are surrounding the landing light fixture and are also very bright. The wig wag feature is in the taxi light. They are bright as well.

Although they did not have the pricing structure complete, the 4 LED landing light and taxi combination will not be more than $995 for the pair. At first blush this seems high. However when you total separate landing lights and taxi lights, you won't be too far off this. In fact, I think the Aero's would be a little higher priced. And with Aero, you still have to figure out how to mount them.

We're getting ready to leave OSH and I gotta pack up. Bottom line, on my new project, I want serious lights. My duckworks are really inadequate and I fly at night a lot. Although price is a factor and both are excellent products with great company support, I chose the Aveo.
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Old 08-02-2009, 08:07 AM
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Default Aero LED's

All, we installed a full set of Aero LED's on our RV-10. We had been waiting for Aveo to make good on their promises of an embedded wingtip version for over six months. Each time I talked to them they promised two more weeks. Not trying to bash anyone, just relaying our experience. With the level of commitments they had to meeting their promised delivery we began to question their level of commitment when it came time to honor warranty.

I came across Aero LED's shortly after Sun-N-Fun, after a quick e-mail asking when the embedded wingtip version would be available; I asked if they could make us a custom set which had the rear position lights on the wingtips removed. No problem, no added cost, had the lights in hand within two weeks. They are expensive; I hope we were part of the mass to get the company into higher volume of production so the price can start to work its way down.

We like our Aero LED's.... I have an opinion of LED lights, I think they are great to look at and see, I think they are terrible to use as a light to see, if that makes any sense. I was driving down the freeway at night, up ahead was a squad car with a car pulled over and his lights on. He had an LED light bar and they were bright, I could see them forever. When I passed him I noticed he only had the rear portion of his light bar turned on. Once passed I noticed I could barely see the light emitted behind the car, in other words they didn't light up much at all to see with, but they could be seen very well. That is when I was convinced that LED's could be used as position and strobe lights, but not as landing and taxi lights. I have had the same experience with flashlights. My opinion, and should be taken as such....

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Old 08-02-2009, 01:00 PM
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Default Aveo vs. Aero

Just walked in the door, after my return trip from Oshkosh (commercial). Looking at these two booths was one of my highest priorities. I absolutely loved the AVEO LEDs. However, I was floored by the price. At $2,700 for a complete set on my soon to be 9A, I will have to keep shopping. Aero was offering some very attractive show special pricing. I will have to consider that, even though I like the Aveo products better.

This puts me in one of those decision points. Keep surpassing my budget and go for the product I like? -or- Buy a really nice product that I can afford that is less expensive. In this case, I could see spending almost $1,000 less on the Aero or some other lighting solution. So you say what's the big deal, it's only a grand... well, I keep coming up with that question in all sorts of areas (EFIS, ENGINE, Radios, Transponder, etc, etc.). At some point I have to say NO, and stop going for that new gadget with the premium price.
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Old 08-02-2009, 09:07 PM
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As promised, here are some photos and videos I took around the grounds at Oshkosh of our lights as well as Aveo and Whelen:

First off, we donated and installed 4 of our Sunspot landing lights in the EAA 2010 Husky sweepstakes plane:



First side completed:



GE4509 on the other side still needs to be changed:



Long shot of the LED and GE4509:



Here is a shot of one of the Aveo lights installed on a Tundra in the North Aircraft area:



This is the AeroLEDs 1600 installed in the Remos GX:





Here is the new Pulsar NS90 installed in a newly completed RV8:





Here is a short video clip of the Pulsar NS90:

http://www.razorsedgesoft.com/PulsarNS90RV8.MP4

Here is a video clip of Aveo strobes on the Dynali helicopter and the My Sky MSONE:

http://www.razorsedgesoft.com/AveoDy...oLEDsMySky.MP4
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Old 08-02-2009, 09:15 PM
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This is the Pulsar EXP installed on Greg Poe's MX2:




This is the Microsun and Pulsar EXP installed on the Jabiru LSA:





This is the Microsun installed on Lockwood's Air Cam:




This is the Pulsar EXP installed on the Lancair Evolution:

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Old 08-02-2009, 09:25 PM
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This is the My Sky One with the Pulsar EXP and Sunlite:





Here is a video on the My Sky website that shows the Sunlite wig-wag and Pulsar EXP in flight:

http://www.mysky.aero/video-takeoff-...aft-msone.html

Here is the AeroLEDs Suntail in an RV8:

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