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06-27-2009, 11:49 AM
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: Cincinnati, OH
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RV-10 vs Cirrus SR22
Hello All,
I was just out on the ramp running a plane for some EGT problems and heard one of our customers SR22 coming roaring down the runway...she lifted off a couple hundred feet after the 1000' markers...meanwhile... N410RB was taxiing to the run-up and a couple minutes went by and he powered up and was off the ground about halfway between the numbers and the same markers. I smiled.
SR22: IO-550-N 310hp with wide chord composite 3 bladed Hartzell
RV10: BA 2 blade Hartzell and 260hp IO-540(assumption..)
HOORAH RV's!
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06-27-2009, 02:18 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Hubbard Oregon
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I know of at least one SR22 owner that has sold his airplane and bought a nicely built example of an RV-10. His reason...higher performance with lower initial purchase cost and lower cost to own (maint, etc.)
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06-27-2009, 03:37 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Huskerland, USA
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There is an interesting thread on another web site where a Cirrus driver did a touch & go, and gave it full power after he touched the mains down. The plane pitched up (it was trimmed for landing) and he was (allegedly) unable to hold the nose down with just one hand while he attempted to get it trimmed for take off. The resulting crash was fatal. The Cirrus has a left hand only stick.
I have had to do a go around in my -10 and the force needed to hold the nose down while not over powering, it was certaining welcome to be able to use two hands.
The other statistic I find interesting in the Cirrus -v- RV-10 is the stall speed. It's nice to have things happening just a little slower on final, and in the case of an off field landing the survivability at the lower speed has to be beneficial.
JMHO
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06-27-2009, 07:03 PM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Portland, ND
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The SR-22's I have been in had a Go around position on the power lever--maybe it wasn't used in that case?
The 22's are sure some nice planes, and have a ton of shoulder room. How do the 10's compare in that regard? I have never had a chance to get in one.
Cool discussion!!
http://cirrusaircraft.com/sr22/gallery.aspx
The go around button is the 7th picture in the slide show, scroll to the first cockpit picture and you can see it. I can't get the link to go directly to it--I am just a dumb farmer, not so good on the 'puter.
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Last edited by lancef53 : 06-27-2009 at 07:18 PM.
Reason: link--maybe??
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06-27-2009, 07:19 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lancef53
The SR-22's I have been in had a Go around position on the power lever--maybe it wasn't used in that case?
Cool discussion!!
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I've got several hundred hours in SR22s and haven't seen that. Maybe a button for the flight director to indicate climb attitude?
I haven't flown a -10, so can't compare directly, but a Cirrus is easily controllable in a go-around. Like most "heavy" singles the stick forces are a good bit higher than the smaller RVs.
The Cirrus handling is very comparable to a Bonanza, and a little lighter/snappier than the bigger Pipers.
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06-27-2009, 07:32 PM
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Flyeyes, can you look at the link on the cirrus site? I have only ridden in them, or flown from the right, but the pilot made it sound like it actually controlled the power or something.
I don't know how it works, I have never seen it used.
Lance
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06-27-2009, 08:17 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Gilbert, AZ (and missing TX)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lancef53
Flyeyes, can you look at the link on the cirrus site? I have only ridden in them, or flown from the right, but the pilot made it sound like it actually controlled the power or something.
I don't know how it works, I have never seen it used.
Lance
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Looks like it just cues the flight director. Info at the very bottom of the page:
http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/airc...&print=1&page=
That level feature in the autopilot seems like a potential life saver
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06-27-2009, 09:32 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Las Cruces, NM
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I bought a new '08 SR-22 which I flew a little over 100 hours. The plane was great but the depreciation and operating costs were almost unbearable. (Not that the Cirrus aircraft are any different in that regards than just about any other new, comparable type I guess.) I sold it, primarily for economic reasons, and now have about 75 hours on my RV-10. I LOVE the operating costs of the RV-10 and find it to be very comparable performance-wise. It's a bit more spartan and the avionics, while quite good, really don't compare to the Avidyne equipment but I comfortably fly it IFR all the time (it has 3 separate GPS systems and 2 independent EFIS units). And one of the things I really enjoy is the ground handling, particularily the extra rudder and elevator control if provides. When you consider the cost factors involved I think it's a no brainer. If money is unlimited I'd buy the Cirrus just like I'd buy a new BMW versus a used Buick or something. Buicks are good though and sure get the job done!
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06-27-2009, 09:46 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Go around button not new technology
My Century 41 in my first mooney ('81 231) had the same feature. It would pitch up to climb attitude, though the pilot had to manage power and airspeed and dial in the missed way point. It was up to the pilot  to ensure one didn't get too slow. Never tried to see what it would do near stall, but a nice feature nonetheless.
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06-28-2009, 07:43 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JumpNurse
That level feature in the autopilot seems like a potential life saver
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I'm interested in your thoughts on this. In what types of situations do you envision the "level" button being most effective?
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