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Old 02-08-2006, 07:14 PM
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Default Criminals learning to fly?

With the TFR's, ADIZ's, etc., this hit me kind of wierd when I read it. With the current airspace grabs taking place in the name of security this seems very odd to be taking place. What do you all think?

http://www.avweb.com/newswire/12_06a.../191524-1.html

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Old 02-08-2006, 07:34 PM
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Old 02-08-2006, 08:32 PM
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This could make for some interesting TV. A stall-speed chase through the Los Angeles VFR Corridor...
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Old 02-08-2006, 08:45 PM
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I wonder how he got a medical?
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Old 02-08-2006, 11:22 PM
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As a law enforcement officer who has spent the last three years locating and jailing mid to high level drug traffickers I find this amazing. I have found that there is little to no accountability or tracking by the FAA regarding student pilots. You are not tracked or publicized until after you have obtained the certificate. I have encountered this several times. I have had reports of subjects that get their student rating and are just riding the student status to fly wherever they feel. They get just enough info to be dangerous and use it without any accountability.

Very frustrating when things like this are going on.

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Old 02-09-2006, 05:03 AM
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Yea, if they want to rehabilitate the guy, they should sign him up for a shop class that, as a project, builds an RV.

At least then they could keep an eye on him, and he might even make parole by the time he puts in about 4000 building hours.

What I'd like to know is: Who's paying for his flight instruction and aircraft use? Don't anyone dare tell me that taxpayers are.
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Old 02-09-2006, 06:13 AM
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An Omaha man nearing the end of his sentence for motor vehicle homicide has been granted permission to take flying lessons, including solo flights. Barry Greg Caughlin was granted permission to take flying lessons and even fly solo to receive a private pilot's license -- all while he was a Nebraska inmate.
At least one veteran lawman says that kind of rehabilitation goes too far.
"He's under the supervision of a flight instructor," said Ryan Mahr of Community Corrections. "He has to file a flight plan and the plane is on radar, so we felt we could account for him while he was out of the facility on the program."
Caughlin has served more than four years for motor vehicle homicide. He had been drinking when he crashed his vehicle into a father and son, killing them in 1999.
His driver?s license is revoked until 2011 but the FAA says he can still obtain a pilot's license.
"And the reason he can't operate a motor vehicle is past behavior and concern of the judgment used," said Elkhorn Police Chief Tim Dempsey. "Then it doesn't make sense the person should have a pilot's license."
Before approving the request for an inmate to get flying lessons, the staff at OCC contacted the FAA and informed the government Caughlin is nearing the end of his sentence for motor vehicle homicide. Still, the FAA approved pilot training.
FAA spokesperson Elzabeth Cory says, "We take these issues very, very seriously."
She says there's a review of the details of the case and the individual must give complete disclosure of the facts and detailed current treatment and sobriety. Corrections officials say Caughlin earned the privilege of pursing a career in aviation. Inmates are carefully screened for educational release and pay their own way through school. They also must always pass a breath test. Though granting flying lessons is a first, correction officials say when it came to protecting the public, nothing was left up in the air.
Corrections officials say that since his driver's license is revoked, Caughlin would ride his bicycle from the work release center to a bus stop, and then take a bus to the Millard Airport for flying lessons.
I don't know any details of the case, but I have to say I'm happy to see that the prison system in Nebraska is doing more than just warehousing people during their sentences. We've got to live with these people once they've served their sentence, and I'd prefer that they have some skills that can help them lead a productive life in the "real world".
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Old 02-09-2006, 07:08 AM
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There's enough information in the linked article for me to say... kudos. Honestly, I may be in the minority here but I actually think it's pretty positive.

Granted, I don't know any more about his case than any of us here, but it seems like he's in jail for a stupid accident. He got drunk and got behind the wheel... it was just a crying shame someone had to die in his case. However, it still remains that he made a really dumb mistake, a really tragic mistake, and one that has consequences he'll live with for the rest of his life. I mean, he killed his own son in that accident... it follows that in all probability he's not going to do anything that stupid again. It was also 7 years ago... I'm sure he's had plenty of time to sit in his cell and think about what he did.

I, for one applaud this action. It's not like he's sitting in his cell rotting, he's actually making a solid attempt to better himself and I think the fact that he has kept his promise to return after each flight shows significant responsiblity.

There'll be the usual people who will scream "FOUL" at this because "... he could kill lots of people with an airplane... look at September 11th!" but we as aviators need to look well beyond that and realize that he's learning to fly in an aircraft that has about as much effect on a building should they meet that a dragonfly has on my windshield at 60 mph: Sticky, ugly mess but my car's not about to explode on impact.
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Old 02-09-2006, 07:10 AM
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So, this guy wants a career in aviation by starting flying lessons AFTER a DUI and a vehicular homicide conviction

From the get-go his "aviaiton career" is DOOMED -- at least in any LEGAL, respectable aspect. What 'ta heck are those officials thinking in their "rehabilitative ivory towers"!
Would any of you want to trust this guy with a King Air under 121?

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Old 02-09-2006, 09:45 AM
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So, this guy wants a career in aviation by starting flying lessons AFTER a DUI and a vehicular homicide conviction

From the get-go his "aviaiton career" is DOOMED
Absolutely. I think opportunities in aviation will be very limited with a fatal DWI conviction in your past. Aviation jobs aside, I know of at least one flying club that won't even let you fill out an application for membership if you have any DWIs or felony convictions.

I agree that it's good to see programs of this type that give people a better shot at getting their lives on track after they're released. At the same time perhaps I'm being closed minded but I fail to see how a private pilot certificate will help anyone with a DWI conviction and prison time in their past find any kind of gainful employment.
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