Show us your RV-10 Panel - Page 11

ddnebert · #**101** 05-12-2009, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SteinAir

I don't have a ton of comments, but I do have a few questions...

1) Do you plan on using the airplane IFR (I'm guessing so since you have a 430 and a few backups)? I would review choices based on the answer to that question.

I know there is no thing as 'light IFR' but I do want to have that capability once I gain experience with it.

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2) Do you already have a King Txpdr? If not, then buy a Garmin. If so, that's ok.

Yes, I have a checked-out KT-76A. Perhaps it doesn't look like I'm on a budget, but I'd rather put $1000 into something else.

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3) Do you already have the EXP Bus? If so - ok, but if not then forget about it and go with either switches/breakers or switches/fuses...there are a lot of reasons - too many to decipher here. If you do have the EXP bus already-still do some careful consideration about what your plane needs for total current load and what the EXP can handle.

I already have the EXP Bus with the rocker switches, and it is too tall in the current configuration to fit on the lower panel. I see only about an inch of real estate there when the panel is screwed in. I've not opted for a larger panel. I think I'll slide them over to be more centrally located.

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4) Is this a plane you're going to keep or possibly sell? Again, makes a huge difference in what I might comment on. Equipment choices can cause huge and drastic valuation differences in the plane.

It is my first plane and I plan to keep it to fly, not as an investment for someone else. Still, I do want the best ergonomics and options I can afford. Certainly there will be swap-outs over time!

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5) Will you be flying it from the right seat? If so, then the EFIS location should be re-considered...and if you're going to fly it from the left seat then the switch location should perhaps be reconsidered.

I wasn't planning to fly from the right seat, but would want a co-pilot option as a reliever.

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6) I'm guessing no trim switches on the stick? How about using the trim indications in the MGL?

Good suggestion. I'll put trim switches on the stick and use the EFIS indicators.

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7) Why put the ELT remote in the valuable panel space in front of the pilot?

I guess I'll throw it way over to the right.

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8) Think carefully about putting the Jacks there. Again that's valuable real estate for engine controls, heat cables, parking brake, alternate air/carb heat, flap switch, etc..

Others' suggestions about putting the jacks on the tunnel make sense. I know in the Warrior I fly now, the headset wires are always getting in the way of entry/exit.

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9) Back to flying from the right or left seat...and the Garmin GPS. If you don't use an angle adapter, it'll be pretty hard to see the GPS on the right side from the pilots seat. Perhaps locating it closer to the center of the panel (in the stack) might locate it in a more centralized location?

Will move to center, if I keep it.

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10) Is there a reason for not locating the EXP bus (if you go that way) up in the main panel instead of on the lower panel? The main panel is pretty valuable space, and the lower "switch strip" works pretty well to put switches/breakers and such.

Old-fashioned switches maybe, but the Bus needs more vertical space.

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My 2 cents as usual.

Cheers,
Stein

Thanks so much for everyone's comments. I'll go move some things around and re-post!

Doug.

ddnebert · #**102** 05-12-2009, 06:41 AM

OK, I took many of the suggestions that were made and have mocked-up a new version. See the new panel image.

It will be hard to stack everything in the middle, as I want to leave stack space for future equipment.

Where does one get an angle bracket for the Gizmo?

Summary:

Added an electric attitude indicator
Moved dials to left
Moved EFIS right
Moved stack left
Will control the trim (and flaps?) from the stick and use EFIS indicators
Jacks on tunnel
ELT panel on right

Any additional comments?

Doug.

Mike S · #**103** 05-12-2009, 08:55 AM

http://www.airgizmos.com/prod/pd7/index.asp

godspeed · #**104** 05-12-2009, 09:24 AM

I have one 1/2 price if you need it.. never used

Danny

eric.kallio · #**105** 06-01-2009, 10:30 AM

My panel arrived today. Another quality product brought to me by Steinair, after saving me after the Accuracy fallout. It is dual GRT HX, G530W, TruTrak RV-10 A/P, GTX 330 transponder, and an SL-30. I also threw in the AOA pro with a Co2 monitor and some other little options. Not sure if the picture was inserted properly so here is the link.

http://websites.expercraft.com/scout...400a11e19e.jpg
Now it is time to start putting it all together.

Eric Kallio 40518

SteinAir · #**106** 06-01-2009, 12:21 PM

...and a picture of it powered up on our bench. The new GRT HX system is really nice, and Eric ended up with a super nice panel at a decent price. Pleasure to work with as well - even though Eric faced some issues due to the Accuracy mess last year. There is also a full pedestal with throttle quadrant as well as an armrest/center console not pictured.

Cheers,
Stein

Gary 40274 · #**107** 06-02-2009, 07:45 AM

Maybe we need to start a list of all of us who were saved by Stein from electronics companies problems. Let's see there was Chelton (Direct to), Accuracy Avionics, OP. Did I miss any? I was one of the saved ones, how many others are there out there that Stein stepped up to the plate for and rescued them from a bad situation?

Thank you Stein!!

Gary Specketer
40274 Flying

Bob Brown · #**108** 06-02-2009, 10:36 AM

Stein saved my bacon when I was building my 7A. I bought a "prewired" stack from a well known company who did not do a good job (quality wise) and then refused to stand behind their work. Frantic, I called Stein who talked me through my issues and helped me work it out. He probably doesn't remember this because he does it for so many of us, and he does it often. It was because of his wiillingness to help, and the quality work his shop puts out that we chose to have him build our -10 panel.

So how about it Stein, can you throw a shot of my panel up here yet?

Michael Wellenzohn · #**109** 06-02-2009, 01:27 PM

Well I just thought it's time to share my panel although not installed it's just a great piece of work.
I designed the layout using a CAD program and installed plexi glas mock-up to check the ergonomics. Based on various feedback and manipulation simulations this is the outcome. Stein and his team did a great job working with me to get it done.
It currently is equipped with two AF-3500 (AF-4500 ready, once they ship it), VP-200 ( a great piece of engineering, thanks Marc) Garmin, 430W, SL-30, GTX 330, PMA 8000B-MP3, CO-353, Trutrack Digiflight II A/P, 2.25 Backup Instruments Altimeter Winter, ASI UMA (RV-10) and Trutrack ADI II.

If anyone is interested in the drawings let me know.

Cheers
Michael

http://wellenzohn.net/HB-YNN/Galleri...ition=download

http://wellenzohn.net/HB-YNN/Galleri...ition=download

ArizonaAero · #**110** 06-02-2009, 02:26 PM

I have been doing avionics in general aviation for some time now. I own a repair station in Phoenix and had the pleasure of doing some work on an RV-10. Since this aircraft I have decided to start focussing my attention towards the experimental market as well. The avionics are as good as certified and the resrictions simply don't hold anyone back. If you need a panel built or retofitted I can do it way cheaper than anyone else in the states trust me. These panel you see are a snap to do and I'm some of you have felt the pain of being way overcharged for such easy work.
Charlie,
602-369-7421