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03-23-2009, 07:50 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
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I agree with Larry. If you fly a complete test program, you won't be done in 25 hrs. anyway.
If you sign off Phase I before 40 hrs. and something happened, things could get sticky.
Lawyers have a way of pointing out things like, "You knew you were supposed to get 40 hrs. but you took advantage of the mistake."
Just my $.02.
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Mel Asberry, DAR since the last century.
EAA Flight Advisor/Tech Counselor, Friend of the RV-1
Recipient of Tony Bingelis Award and Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award
USAF Vet, High School E-LSA Project Mentor.
RV-6 Flying since 1993 (sold)
<rvmel(at)icloud.com>
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03-25-2009, 01:39 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Birmingham,Alabama
Posts: 62
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How about this one...I have an O-320 on my RV-8. It was an O-320 D2J/160hp with the 8.5:1 pistons. It was rebuilt by an engine shop but he put 9:1 pistons in it and then put a different crank in so I could use a C/S prop. This would be just like the engine in the twin commanche I believe. He put in the log book that it was now an O-320 EXP and my DAR just went on without question and put the 40 hr requirement on my plane. SO...if this configuration is one that Lyc makes and uses the hartzell prop from Vans I could really have had the engine shop change the dash # and it would be a certified engine again?
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03-25-2009, 01:57 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Milwaukee, WI area
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I've also heard that if you have an experimental electronic ignition, or an experimental fuel injection system...you get 40 hours, even if you have a certified engine/prop combo. Correct?
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Chad Jensen
Astronics AES, Vertical Power
RV-7, 5 yr build, flew it 68 hours, sold it, miss it.
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03-25-2009, 03:01 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cjensen
I've also heard that if you have an experimental electronic ignition, or an experimental fuel injection system...you get 40 hours, even if you have a certified engine/prop combo. Correct?
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Well in this case, you no longer have a certied engine.
The electronic ignition and experimental fuel injection are not listed on the type certificate for the engine.
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Mel Asberry, DAR since the last century.
EAA Flight Advisor/Tech Counselor, Friend of the RV-1
Recipient of Tony Bingelis Award and Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award
USAF Vet, High School E-LSA Project Mentor.
RV-6 Flying since 1993 (sold)
<rvmel(at)icloud.com>
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03-25-2009, 03:04 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Milwaukee, WI area
Posts: 2,967
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mel
Well in this case, you no longer have a certied engine.
The electronic ignition and experimental fuel injection are not listed on the type certificate for the engine.
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Makes perfect sense! Good thing to point out tho... 
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Chad Jensen
Astronics AES, Vertical Power
RV-7, 5 yr build, flew it 68 hours, sold it, miss it.
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03-25-2009, 10:21 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Pasadena CA
Posts: 2,484
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Hartzell has an STC for the Mooney M20C with the 7497 and O-360-A1A. I'd try for that! Go for it!
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Stephen Samuelian, CFII, A&P IA, CTO
RV4 wing in Jig @ KPOC
RV7 emp built
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03-26-2009, 07:13 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SC
Posts: 12,887
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Quote:
Originally Posted by osxuser
Hartzell has an STC for the Mooney M20C with the 7497 and O-360-A1A. I'd try for that! Go for it!
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Only he still has an experimental engine, so he will/should get the 40 hours.
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Bill R.
RV-9 (Yes, it's a dragon tail)
O-360 w/ dual P-mags
Build the plane you want, not the plane others want you to build!
SC86 - Easley, SC
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03-26-2009, 08:01 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Pasadena CA
Posts: 2,484
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I'm not saying to lie to a DAR about what you have installed. But in my mind, and XO-360-A1A and an O-360-A1A are the same engine... and apparently some DAR's agree. Electronic ignition probably kills that theory.
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Stephen Samuelian, CFII, A&P IA, CTO
RV4 wing in Jig @ KPOC
RV7 emp built
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