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03-17-2009, 05:26 PM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: central oregon
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Originally Posted by vonjet
I myself would not buy off ebay. I am buying directly from Hooker. I was referencing it for you since you seem determined to save to save money on seatbelts. FYI...The seatbelts on ebay are for sale by the same companies that make them for pro motorsports. ex. CROW, which is far superior to any belt your gonna make on your Singer. So dont try and throw some sarcastic jab at me as if to imply ebay belts are worse than making your own when you haven't done your research on the belts listed on ebay. Was only trying to help.
Have a good flight.
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It wasn't a sarcastic jab. you are saying yourself you won't buy off ebay. I don't know who is selling on ebay, but unless it is the manufacturer or a reputable retailer you have no idea where those belts have been. in the trunk of a car, next to a battery fizzing acid, left by some chlorine fumes (common bleach, pool chemicals, hot tub chemicals). wherever. it could be a very reputable brand name, but if you don't know the seller, who's to say what condition it is in or if it isn't a copy?
I would buy from 1:1 scale any day of the week, anything he sewed up and said was good to go. In fact that is where many skydivers do buy their harness. I would rather make something myself than buy off ebay.
nice photos there Kelly, i see the required red bull- did you see the thread on the WAM diesel in the rv9?
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03-17-2009, 06:36 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: NC25
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You could say that I made my own belts or rather I had them custom made from High End "Pacific Scientific" buckles at a local shop that makes aircraft seat belts. 12-years ago, the going retail price for a 5-point "Pacific Scientific" belt set was $400 a seat. I purchased NEW surplus buckles and had "Belt Maker, INC" fab custom belts with my buckles. My price complete came in more than what belts would have cost from Van's but had both seats done for less than the retail cost of one set new. I also have an FAA approved shop that included the TSO tag on the belt for piece of mind.
The prices above were current 12-years ago and will be more now.
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To most people, the sky is the limit.
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03-17-2009, 09:40 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Thousand Oaks, CA
Posts: 183
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Ebay belts
I should have been more clear. I would buy off ebay If I found what I needed. But for this purchase I chose to buy direct from Hooker Harness because they are making them custom for my airplane. There were plenty of belts and harnesses on ebay that are direct from the dealers who have them listed.
Actually most of the harnesses on ebay are from dealers and are brand new units and not used stuff.
I still think that some things are better left to the pros. And if I can buy professionaly made 5 point harnesses for $350 I'd rather save my time and my energy for other projects.
And if you feel like seatbelts are pointless in aircraft structures that not are made to handle crashes go here:
http://www.lancairlegacy.com/tips_harness.html
look at the pictures and read the article. Ron walked away with no injuries and was 100% sure it was because of his harnesses.
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03-18-2009, 04:58 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Sonoma County
Posts: 3,821
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I SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE CLEAR.......
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Originally Posted by vonjet
I should have been more clear.
And if you feel like seatbelts are pointless in aircraft structures that not are made to handle crashes go here:
http://www.lancairlegacy.com/tips_harness.html
look at the pictures and read the article. Ron walked away with no injuries and was 100% sure it was because of his harnesses.
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And what was said was......
"NASCAR type 3" seat belts are just not needed in a structure that is not designed to crash."
Van's 5 point seat belts will keep the body in place just as good as HOOKER 3" NASCAR type belts, with far less bulk to deal with in a confined area.
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03-18-2009, 11:03 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Charleston, WV
Posts: 139
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Thanks to all for the great replies to my seat belt question!
I think that when the time comes, I will try making my own seat belts and maybe I can do an RV first in the process.
But seriously, I used to do some leather working and fortunately I have one of those old, foot powered, Singer sewing machines that was made for sewing leather for shoes and such.
So hopefully, with some good supplies and a bit of brain power, I can come up with something that looks good, wears good, and is very safe.
Steve Kimble
Charleston, WV
By the way, RV-8 with the Wings about one third done.
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03-18-2009, 08:37 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Thousand Oaks, CA
Posts: 183
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Gasman
Hey gasman,
wasn't trying to call you out on anything you said. I was just posting that link to the article for all to read. The statement about seatbelts and structures wasn't meant to single any one person's or your opinion out. Just wanted clear the air. Sorry if I gave a confrontational post.
have a good one.
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03-18-2009, 09:03 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Conroe, Texas
Posts: 517
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Don't Rag EBay!
Two years ago I bought two (2) Lycoming O360 A1A's for $23,000.00 for both. They were reman to 0, had lasar ingnitions, full acc., new Mil. Cylinders, both were certified, had all logs. Mine runs perfect. Also bought a brand new Dual EFIS, dual AHRS Grand rapids Horizon 1 with EIS for $7,000.00 warranty was transfered. Also bought new set of Comant Towel Bars for $245.00.
Just goes to show if you watch carefully, you can get some great deals on EBay. You can also get some not so great deals. Don't ask me how I know.
Just have to be very careful. Now that I'm finished building & bidding, I thought I'd pass this along.
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03-19-2009, 12:30 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Sonoma County
Posts: 3,821
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vonjet
Hey gasman,
wasn't trying to call you out on anything you said. I was just posting that link to the article for all to read. The statement about seatbelts and structures wasn't meant to single any one person's or your opinion out. Just wanted clear the air. Sorry if I gave a confrontational post.
have a good one.
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Not a problem here........  Condition inspection almost done, and am ready for a good one..... flight. It's been two weeks due to work and I am getting the shakes. I hate this down time.............. 
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03-19-2009, 02:35 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Corvallis Oregon.
Posts: 680
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MTC. Putting your own belts together is a great plan that I intend to do. To my way of thinking it makes as much sence to assemble your own belts as it does to build your own plane. Properly done with good materials and hardware I can (notice I didn't say I think) put a set of seat belts together that are superior to production belts. However, if Iwere to sell them I'd probably have to charge twice what production belts cost. That's what hobbies are for though.
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03-19-2009, 07:41 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Sonoma County
Posts: 3,821
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So where can we get hardware that (AMSAFE) Van's seat belts are made of. I like them because they are lite, compact and a type of buckle that every one knows and understands....... automotive type.
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