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03-14-2009, 01:02 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Manstad, Norway
Posts: 866
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P-mags: Autoharness/sparkplugs or aircraft harness/plugs?
Hi.
I'm about ready to order engine, prop etc for my second -7 and I'll probably install P-mags in that engine as well.
I've dual P-mags on my first -7 and I REALLY like them.
Since the last S/B I've had no issues and Brad has been providing GREAT customer care.
I'm trying to decide which type of harness and sparkplugs to choose since P-mag offers both types.
Question for you P/E-Mag users out there:
Do you use autostyle harness + sparkplugs or aircraftstyle harness + sparkplugs?
If any of you have tried both types on your engine; what's your experiences?
My initial thoughts are that the aircraft harness and plugs are sturdier?
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Regards Alf Olav Frog / Norway
First RV-7 completed, (bought partly finished from a US-builder) 305 hrs per July 2014, SOLD
Second -7 had first flight Feb 25th 2014. 220 hrs pr July 2019. Life is good!
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03-14-2009, 07:03 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Near Scipio, in Southern Indiana
Posts: 1,779
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You may be right; the aircraft harness may be sturdier, but I opted for the auto setup and couldn't be happier. I can change out all the plugs once a year for less than the cost of one aircraft plug. Easy, cheap and no harm, no foul. The only (minor) problem is removing the adapters to check compression. The wires should last a long time.
Bob Kelly
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03-14-2009, 07:16 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Boise, ID
Posts: 1,007
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Go full auto components. Simple, cheap, throw-away plugs and many varieties to choose from if you want to vary the characteristics. E-mag supplies top quality material. I've 300 hrs experience.
Same experience with the wires and plugs in a Lightspeed set-up. 250 hours experience.
The shield braid might make aircraft wire feel stronger, but you don't need it and the terminations are the weak point in any wiring. But a set of plugs is $160!!! Yikes! Two copper washers are the price of an auto plug! Auto plugs are $16 for 8 with an integral washer, a no-brainer.
John Siebold
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03-14-2009, 07:18 AM
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Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 377
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More choices
I have a dual PMag set up with auto plugs and I think this is the way to go. One huge advantage is you have more choices in heat ratings of plugs. I found that the recommended plugs were too cold and were fouling out quickly. So I just switched to hotter plugs. It costs me $15. It took two tries to figure it out but now I have the perfect plug for my engine. You could not afford to do that with aircraft plugs if you could get the different heat ratings. One thing to watch though. The terminal on the auto plug screws on to the plug and I have had two unscrew and the plug wire fall off. I've started putting a very small amount of thread locker on a couple of threads (not enough to hurt the electrical connection). That has seemed to solve the problem.
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Charlie "T.Bear" Guarino
Springtown, TX
RV-4 Flying again with a fresh overhaul
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03-14-2009, 07:25 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 266
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700hrs with auto plugs so far and no problems (300hrs on my RV6, 400hrs on the 7A). No reason here to go for the much more expensive aviation plugs. By the way, the plug wires will be the same if you opt for aviation plugs, just the ends are different.
Martin Sutter
building and flying RV's since 1988
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03-14-2009, 08:12 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Corvallis Oregon
Posts: 3,547
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About the only downside
Of auto plugs is the fact you need the adaptors (which from memory are a little spendy), but of course you only need them once.
I have notice I get ignition noise with auto plugs after 50 to 100 hours, but I am told the solution is dialectric grease in the spak plug cap, so I'll be getting some this morning.
Frank
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03-14-2009, 08:42 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: N. Yorkshire, England
Posts: 1,050
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autostyle harness + sparkplugs
I wont repeat all the logic below, but I agree.
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03-14-2009, 09:02 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SC
Posts: 12,887
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Sampson
autostyle harness + sparkplugs
I wont repeat all the logic below, but I agree.
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Same for me!
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RV-9 (Yes, it's a dragon tail)
O-360 w/ dual P-mags
Build the plane you want, not the plane others want you to build!
SC86 - Easley, SC
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03-14-2009, 01:39 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Cedar Park, TX
Posts: 264
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Auto
Dual P/Mag's and full auto plugs/harness in my 7a.
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RV7a - Flying
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FFI Flight Lead - www.FalconFlight.aero
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03-14-2009, 08:58 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 768
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PMAG plugs
Dual PMAGs on RV7a with 498 hours in last two years, 230 hours since PMAG service bulletin upgrade a year ago, with auto harness and plugs and I could not be happier. The plugs are $2 a piece, so I change them every 100 hours. I am very pleased with this choice.
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Tom Lewis
RV7a N967BT 1900 hrs.
RV10 N143EB 960 hrs.
Granbury, Tx
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