Bridgeport (XBP) advisory -- no formation flying

[jferraro17]

Originally Posted by Mike S

The feds have been hammering GA airports over this for quite a while now.

Dont blame this one on the manager.

Mike--

I told you not to get me started...


Supposedly, this has nothing to do with the Feds, and everything to do with the OWNER of the runway ( he owns the runway, the hangars are privately owned), and his insistence on a (DR. Evil...) $1M insurance policy to get a permit (from him) to drive a vehicle across. Although he himself has been know to leave forklifts on the runway unattended...yes forklifts. Needless to say, there are a number of business that this affects daily at 52F.

Once again, not an FAA issue (until now )

Doug, Monkey, Grady, Tina, etc, etc, can fill in the holes, but this was what I was referring to.

Back to the garage-

Joe

[RV8iator]

Originally Posted by allbee

As for the other airport, I think they like the money they get for improvements, but want no traffic. I guess the old FXXXX control the airways.

IF, they take the money, then it's a publicly funded airport and they can't impose local restrictions like this.
This really need to be nipped in the bud. We as a community better watch out for ourselves because it's certain most local politicians see us as a pain in the B@#T

[Cougar68]

I would really like to know the full story about why they felt this restriction was needed. Seems like a whole lot of backstory that we're missing out on.

[allbee]

I fly over 300 hrs a year and I've seen quit a bit. Meaning people on the ground that think the airwaves are theirs. Yup, those people are generally pilots, the worse are the ones that can't fly anymore for one reason or other.
I have a thing in my brain that says, the worse enemy for a pilot is unfortunatly another pilot. That being said, we need to be careful when going into any airport. I have a rule that if there is even one airplane in the pattern, I fly normal pattern. That doesn't mean I don't do short approaches. But it does mean that I fly proper direction and radio calls. Head others and be nice. The last thing we need is bad press for the small airplane. Ya I know, there are so many pilots that can be rude. If we choose to be giving and nice than things will go better for everybody. Now that mess in Nevada, we need to spend our time changing or helping with that one, it is definately a pull against our rights. It's going to take an act of God to change the rural airport and how they do things. Why because every one of them usually has a mother hen watching over them.

[John Clark]

This is a good read involving a developer, midfield access, the city, and the FAA. Oh yeah, and in this particular case, a bunch of jobs.

http://tinyurl.com/bvoujp

John Clark
RV8 N18U "Sunshine"
KSBA

[brianwallis]

Easy guys.... I feel a thread drift going on.... maybe we ought to let this one rest because it's not 90% RV related and it's drifting pretty good (not to mention I'm sure we don't have all the facts). I know there are a lot of bad things going on at many many airports because I've seen them. Lets just use this as an opportunity to go contact the AOPA and the related groups and get these things ironed out locally. I agree on the fact that lots of rights are under assault and we need to always be on watch for this. I encourage each and every one of us to take responsibility for our own areas and network with each other to stop the little fiefdoms from ruining everybody else's party... and yes... Jerry I do agree with you(not sure if it's legal but I do agree)...
Best
Brian

[4kilo]

Last week several of us had a conversation with one of the people actually based on XBP. It turns out that the "notams" on the AWOS actually come from ONE local pilot, who happens to own the land on which the AWOS is stationed. This one pilot has decided on his own to attempt to restrict operations at the airport, and the locals are not happy with him. I didn't quite understand the legal implications of why he is able to add his own commentary to the AWOS broadcast, but it evidently has to do with his owning the property.

The AWOS broadcast can state that no left-handed pilots flying yellow painted experimental aircraft are allowed to use the field, but this does not give such a statement the force of regulation. This is a public use airport, and operations allowed by FAR's are allowed unless the FAA issues a notam restricting something.

Pat

[TankerBob]

As someone who is a member of the local airport authority of an airport that has struggle with a bad reputation that we are trying to change. We have to end this soon. It can be very detrimental to the airport if it starts to get a bad reputation. It doesn't matter if gas is cheap after a while people will stop coming there and it will a struggle to get folks back. Our little airport use to have a manger that didn't want to sell fuel because that meant he had to buy more. CRAZY! As for not thinking this isn't RV related, alot of us fly formation (or want to) and this kind of stuff is bad of the RV culture.

On a side note, we had a local Township elected official think that he could make the airspace above his house a restricted area so them darn "allderlites" couldn't fly over his house and crash into it. The FAA got to tell him that he had no authority not to mention a huge abuse of power.

[allbee]

Originally Posted by 4kilo

Last week several of us had a conversation with one of the people actually based on XBP. It turns out that the "notams" on the AWOS actually come from ONE local pilot, who happens to own the land on which the AWOS is stationed. This one pilot has decided on his own to attempt to restrict operations at the airport, and the locals are not happy with him. I didn't quite understand the legal implications of why he is able to add his own commentary to the AWOS broadcast, but it evidently has to do with his owning the property.

The AWOS broadcast can state that no left-handed pilots flying yellow painted experimental aircraft are allowed to use the field, but this does not give such a statement the force of regulation. This is a public use airport, and operations allowed by FAR's are allowed unless the FAA issues a notam restricting something.

Pat

THis is absolutely wrong. If I was flying there I would do it anyway and say the heck with him. Of course I would have a bunch of other pilots next to me, so it wouldn't be just me. Like I said, the worse enemy of a pilot is another pilot, unfortunatly.

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