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Old 01-15-2009, 05:49 PM
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Default Any Other Successful Ditchings?

I believe it is rare for conventional passenger jets with low wings and underwing engine nacelles to ditch successfully. When they hit the water the engines dig in and the structure comes apart. Someone was watching over them today.

As to shutting down the wrong engine - there was a case in the UK about 20 years ago at Kegworth where a crew shut down the good engine on an emergency approach to East Midlands airport and crash landed short on the M1 motorway. They weren't so lucky as many on board perished.

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Old 01-15-2009, 05:57 PM
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I believe it is rare for conventional passenger jets with low wings and underwing engine nacelles to ditch successfully. When they hit the water the engines dig in and the structure comes apart. Someone was watching over them to day.
It's all in the flare.

If you listen to eyewitness reports of the landing, "the pilot pulled up" (exaggerated flare), just before touchdown. That and he was going a slow as possible. That's great piloting. The other not so successful ditchings were when the pilots tried to "land" on water as they would on hard surface. Also, I'm sure he kept the landing gear UP.
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Old 01-15-2009, 06:27 PM
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Yes, but what about a double flameout?

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Old 01-15-2009, 06:38 PM
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of Aeroflot's Tupolev 124 ditching in Neva river between bridges. All passengers survived.



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I believe it is rare for conventional passenger jets with low wings and underwing engine nacelles to ditch successfully. When they hit the water the engines dig in and the structure comes apart. Someone was watching over them to day.

As to shutting down the wrong engine - there was a case in the UK about 20 years ago at Kegworth where a crew shut down the good engine on an emergency approach to East Midlands airport and crash landed short on the M1 motorway. They weren't so lucky as many on board perished.

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Old 01-15-2009, 06:58 PM
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Thumbs up According to reports...

This was according to the reports I read, the first fully successful water ditching of an airliner in 45 years. My hats off to all involved including all the ferry captains and water taxi's who were on the scene first. I'd love to buy them all a beer.
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:12 PM
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This was according to the reports I read, the first fully successful water ditching of an airliner in 45 years. My hats off to all involved including all the ferry captains and water taxi's who were on the scene first. I'd love to buy them all a beer.
I believe an RAF Nimrod, derived from the BAC Comet, ditched in the Atlantic ocean north of Scotland a few years ago but it's engines are buried in the wing root and don't "hang in the breeze".

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Old 01-15-2009, 10:55 PM
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Old 01-16-2009, 12:21 AM
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More importantly he has a Commercial Glider rating, really.

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Old 01-16-2009, 06:09 AM
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This incident effectively demonstrated the difference between a pilot and an aviator.

I am a little disgusted with all the hyperbole in the media though...everyone calling it a 'miracle' and such.

It was a textbook water landing. Yes, the captain had to act quickly and decisively to attempt the water landing, but everything else seems to have been by the book. Note that I'm not taking anything away from the crew...it was a spectacular job...but a miracle?

In addition to the flight crew and volunteer rescuers who are getting credit, I believe a lot of credit should be given to the Airbus engineers that designed the A-320. It held together and remained afloat for quite a while, giving the passengers time to escape.

Now I'm curious how they're going to lift an A-320 out of the river and where they'll take it? I'm assuming they'll try to lift it onto some sort of barge and then take it to a large dock where it will be scrapped?
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