Radio Calls - "Any Traffic In The Area Please Advise."

[N941WR]

Originally Posted by pazmanyflyer

...I fly an experimental Pazmany PL-1 (N2029), what should I be saying to appease those that already know better than us? Should it be something like "Pazmany two zero two niner, 5 miles NW, inboud rwy 28 full stop"

Even then hardly anyone knows what the h*ll a Pazmany is.

Try this:
"Experimental Pazmany two zero two niner, 5 miles NW, rwy 28"

Adding the word Experimental tells people to look for something unusual.

[RickWoodall]

Anyone who has been through a recent ppl, at least here in Canada has been taught to announce the heck out of yourself when entering a non towered a/d, keep updating, announce leaving the zone and of course all pattern positions.
Advise you are entering the area, positions and intentions. The instructors beat that into us that you cant really give to much info and that you need to talk lots. Since passing and getting my ticket of course its much stream lined...but..the other side of the coin is flying into an uncontrolled, entering correctly and making all calls and poof, turn final and some other is on a straight in with NO proper joining technique, no radio call.....but its his home a/d so that is just the way it is. Common sense works, but let us newbies mellow with time. Old timers dont forget the rules either.....as there are a few that dont seem to have a clue either. Fly often have fun and be safe.
Did a cross country today, landed at a small uncontrolled. The old timer in the shack wanted to give me and my wife his truck for the afternoon. Love aviation folks....best there are.

[L.Adamson]

Originally Posted by RickWoodall

Anyone who has been through a recent ppl, at least here in Canada has been taught to announce the heck out of yourself when entering a non towered a/d, keep updating, announce leaving the zone and of course all pattern positions.
Advise you are entering the area, positions and intentions. The instructors beat that into us that you cant really give to much info and that you need to talk lots. Since passing and getting my ticket of course its much stream lined...but..the other side of the coin is flying into an uncontrolled, entering correctly and making all calls and poof, turn final and some other is on a straight in with NO proper joining technique, no radio call.....but its his home a/d so that is just the way it is. Common sense works, but let us newbies mellow with time. Old timers dont forget the rules either.....as there are a few that dont seem to have a clue either. Fly often have fun and be safe.
Did a cross country today, landed at a small uncontrolled. The old timer in the shack wanted to give me and my wife his truck for the afternoon. Love aviation folks....best there are.

I'm agreeing totally!

Now that my RV is flying, it's much too easy to overtake a slower Cessna, Piper, or helicopter if I don't know where they are! Before (while flying the spam cans), I could just keep normal pace with those "slugs". With the subdivisions surrounding our airport, the aircraft seem to blend in much of the time. It's very easy to loose sight of one, while looking for another. And I'm certainly not the only one with this problem. Therefor, I want those position reports......pronto!

Besides, I live under the pattern, and prefer to see it as safe as possible.

L.Adamson

[Jamie]

My other pet peeve is people calling non-towered airports uncontrolled. If it's in class E airspace, it's controlled airspace. If it's in class G, it's truly uncontrolled. The proper term is non-towered or towered airport. ;-)

[Mel]

I've always called them that because that's what I've always heard them called. You are right of course and I promise to mend my ways. I have corrected my previous post.
Thanks for getting me back on the right path.

[Doug Rodrigues]

About 20 years ago I was towing gliders at Stead Airport (where the Air Races are held). I listened to the sound of an open mike followed by the background voice of an obvious instructor. The voice said, ".....now give Stead Unicom a call and ask for a traffic advisory." There was a long pause, but still the mike was keyed. Finally the student spoke, "Ahhhhh...Ahhhhh...ahh Breaker-Breaker Stead Unicom. Come on back with a traffic advisory."

[John Clark]

Originally Posted by Jamie

My other pet peeve is people calling non-towered airports uncontrolled. If it's in class E airspace, it's controlled airspace. If it's in class G, it's truly uncontrolled. The proper term is non-towered or towered airport. ;-)

Class E or G, I would like to think that the airspace around the airport is, in fact, pilot controlled.

John Clark
RV8 N18U "Sunshine"
KSBA

[JoeLofton]

If I'm flying near an airport and someone asks "Any traffic, please advise" I'm happy to give them my location. Given the choice between a mid-air (or even a near miss) and some "improper" communication, I'll take the latter. Keep talking out there.

...Joe

[Huck]

I fly part 121 jets when I'm at work. Occasionally we operate into an airport after the tower is closed.

I'm in radio contact with approach control until on final (usually). So the position reports on CTAF are made on a second radio.

It would be nice to monitor CTAF and get a feel for where everyone is. But I am a man, and therefore not a real good multitasker. I'm already monitoring ATC calls and running checklists.

"Any traffic please advise" is just a chance to devote my attention to the CTAF 100% for a few seconds to see what's going on. May **** off the radio monitors but I can take it.

Did I mention we're doing all this at 180 knots? Usually after dark?

[Jim P]

Annnnnnd....while getting ready to depart Bremerton last weekend, a fine uncontrolled, er, non-towered airport, the stuck mike issue came up:
Pilot 1 (Spamcan): So Steve, how much do you weigh?
Guy 2 (Pax in Spamcan): a hundred and eighty
Pilot 1: you do not weigh one-eighty
Guy 2: sure I do
Pilot 3 (fellow RV'r): I used to weigh one eighty
Pilot 4 (another RV'r): yea, me too

So, this exchange really didn't fall within the AIM guidance, but at the time, it was pretty funny.