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Old 07-27-2008, 02:58 PM
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Default How can you access the nut in this drawing?

I am trying to attach my C728 Ball Stud Aft Mount to the Aft Canopy Deck with #8 screws as depicted in the attached drawing snipet from my RV7 tipup.........






The aft deck is attached and so I am unable to get wrenches or sockets up there to hold the 11/32" nuts. I guess this is one of those things I should have done before attaching the Aft Deck ! ?

Is there a tool that can be used?

Is there a blind rivet strong enought to replace the AN509-8R12 screws?

My goal was to see my tipup....TIP UP.... before heading to Osh....
Ideas appreciated.....
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Old 07-27-2008, 03:19 PM
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Dave,

I made a nutplate plate to install those. I couldn't figure a way to get the nuts on either, and this idea actually came to me from Bill Repucci. You can reach up there and hold the nutplates with a finger, get the screw started, then the other one is easily lined up, and tighten them down. Worked great!

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Old 07-27-2008, 03:54 PM
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Default Tough but doable

I used an open end wrench to get in there to hold the nut and then tighten things with the screw driver. A little frustrating, but doable.

The nut plate idea is a good one!!!
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Old 07-27-2008, 04:10 PM
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I just installed nut plates permanently behind the deck using 3/32" blind flat head rivets. The rivet heads are pretty much covered up by the plate.
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Old 07-27-2008, 04:44 PM
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Similar problem on the -6A. I could get a socket in there but not a socket plus drive. So I used a longer socket and vise-grips to hold it while I turned the screws with a driver.
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Old 07-27-2008, 04:52 PM
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What Darwin said... and if I ever have to do it again, I will go with nutplates!

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Old 07-27-2008, 09:19 PM
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Nut Plates !! Great Idea....Thank you all, see you at Osh at Vans' BBQ
Thanks again....
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Old 07-27-2008, 09:31 PM
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I wish I had been either smart enough to ask or just smart enough to think of it. Either way I could have avoided the cobbled up mess I ended up with. I'm thinking that should be a standard method added to the RV drawings.
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Old 07-27-2008, 09:52 PM
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Default I used a box end wrench and screw driver.

The hardest part was getting the washer and nut started. I put double side tape on my finger and stuck the washer to it. Did the nut the same way.

I like the nutplate idea. Next time I'll do it that way.

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Old 07-28-2008, 10:07 AM
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Funny Parallel:

I had a similar access problem with the washers and nuts for the canopy slider rail on my -9A. Persuaded my wife to superglue a washer/nut assembly to the end of her fingertip and then with her smaller fingers, hold it in place from underneath while I started the screw from above. Worked well until I got impatient and used an electric screwdriver. Unfortunately, the torque of the electric screwdriver overcame the grip of the sueprglue on her finger tip, and took the skin right off. Must've hurt like ****, and I'm still remined of it to this day.
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