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07-27-2008, 02:58 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Libertyville, Illinois
Posts: 54
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How can you access the nut in this drawing?
I am trying to attach my C728 Ball Stud Aft Mount to the Aft Canopy Deck with #8 screws as depicted in the attached drawing snipet from my RV7 tipup.........
The aft deck is attached and so I am unable to get wrenches or sockets up there to hold the 11/32" nuts. I guess this is one of those things I should have done before attaching the Aft Deck ! ?
Is there a tool that can be used?
Is there a blind rivet strong enought to replace the AN509-8R12 screws?
My goal was to see my tipup....TIP UP.... before heading to Osh....
Ideas appreciated.....
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07-27-2008, 03:19 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Milwaukee, WI area
Posts: 2,967
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Dave,
I made a nutplate plate to install those. I couldn't figure a way to get the nuts on either, and this idea actually came to me from Bill Repucci. You can reach up there and hold the nutplates with a finger, get the screw started, then the other one is easily lined up, and tighten them down. Worked great!

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Chad Jensen
Astronics AES, Vertical Power
RV-7, 5 yr build, flew it 68 hours, sold it, miss it.
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07-27-2008, 03:54 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Chandler, AZ
Posts: 2,900
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Tough but doable
I used an open end wrench to get in there to hold the nut and then tighten things with the screw driver. A little frustrating, but doable.
The nut plate idea is a good one!!!
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Darwin N. Barrie
Chandler AZ
www.JDair.com
RV-7 N717EE-Flying (Sold)
RV-7 N717AZ Flying, in paint
EMS Bell 407,
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07-27-2008, 04:10 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Bennington, Vermont USA
Posts: 1,301
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I just installed nut plates permanently behind the deck using 3/32" blind flat head rivets. The rivet heads are pretty much covered up by the plate.
Jim Sharkey
RV6 Tip-Up O360-A1A
Finishing Up
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07-27-2008, 04:44 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flagstaff, AZ
Posts: 2,647
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Similar problem on the -6A. I could get a socket in there but not a socket plus drive. So I used a longer socket and vise-grips to hold it while I turned the screws with a driver.
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Patrick Kelley - Flagstaff, AZ
RV-6A N156PK - Flying too much to paint
RV-10 14MX(reserved) - Fuselage on gear
http://www.mykitlog.com/flion/
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07-27-2008, 04:52 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Delta, CO/Atlin, BC
Posts: 2,389
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What Darwin said... and if I ever have to do it again, I will go with nutplates!
greg
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Greg Arehart
RV-9B (Big tires) Tipup @AJZ or CYSQ
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07-27-2008, 09:19 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Libertyville, Illinois
Posts: 54
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Nut Plates !! Great Idea....Thank you all, see you at Osh at Vans' BBQ
Thanks again....
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07-27-2008, 09:31 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Corvallis Oregon.
Posts: 680
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I wish I had been either smart enough to ask or just smart enough to think of it. Either way I could have avoided the cobbled up mess I ended up with. I'm thinking that should be a standard method added to the RV drawings.
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07-27-2008, 09:52 PM
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Canby, Oregon
Posts: 1,786
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I used a box end wrench and screw driver.
The hardest part was getting the washer and nut started. I put double side tape on my finger and stuck the washer to it. Did the nut the same way.
I like the nutplate idea. Next time I'll do it that way.
Kent
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Kent Byerley
RV9A N94KJ - IO320, CS, tipup
AFS 3500, TT AP, FLYING....
Canby, Or
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07-28-2008, 10:07 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Manhattan, NY
Posts: 83
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Funny Parallel:
I had a similar access problem with the washers and nuts for the canopy slider rail on my -9A. Persuaded my wife to superglue a washer/nut assembly to the end of her fingertip and then with her smaller fingers, hold it in place from underneath while I started the screw from above. Worked well until I got impatient and used an electric screwdriver. Unfortunately, the torque of the electric screwdriver overcame the grip of the sueprglue on her finger tip, and took the skin right off. Must've hurt like ****, and I'm still remined of it to this day.
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