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07-08-2008, 06:01 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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Thats what we will all be looking to buy if gas prices don't chill out! Very nice #'s... avg 2.87gph!
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07-08-2008, 07:07 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
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Maybe a RV-12 with an o-200? That would be the ticket, or an RV-9, but that would be pushing it a bit, too light in the nose most likely.
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07-09-2008, 06:09 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Louisville, Ga
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It just shows...
....what can be done with aerodynamics. This is one of the best examples in a long, long time that shows that it really ain't about horsepower. 200 cu. in. and a cross-this-big-land-trip. nonstop in 9 something hours?? Fantastic, really.
Put an 0-200 in a -12, clean it up with pants, leg fairings and such....I think we'd be surprised. I'm planning to do just that.
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Louisville, Ga
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07-09-2008, 09:05 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: STL/3K6
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AWESOME
Now the real question is why can't we get engines like this from Lycoming and Continental! The answer is they think pilots are too dumb to operate an engine with such complex leaning and timing requirements I guess. (they may be right unfortunately)
Any idea what the BSFC (I think thats the acronym) for this engine was with this setup?
How much power was he making? Was it all aerodynamics that made this possible or was he making decent power too?
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07-09-2008, 12:35 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Sonoma County
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pierre smith
....what can be done with aerodynamics. This is one of the best examples in a long, long time that shows that it really ain't about horsepower. 200 cu. in. and a cross-this-big-land-trip. nonstop in 9 something hours?? Fantastic, really.
Put an 0-200 in a -12, clean it up with pants, leg fairings and such....I think we'd be surprised. I'm planning to do just that.
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WITH ALL of the pop rivet heads out in the air to drag along, the 12 was not ment to be a CLEAN A/C.
RUTAN built that airplane to go fast on a small amount of power............. Klaus just made it better. Nothing amazing about the O200. What is amazing, is the LSI, and his FI, and the prop that he made. Also all of the other changes that was made to the airframe.
The fastest RV.......... an RV4 with a MODIFIED IO360, and built really clean and an altered prop, can just stay with Klaus. And the fuel burn........ not even close.
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07-09-2008, 12:44 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gasman
RUTAN built that airplane to go fast on a small amount of power............. Klaus just made it better. Nothing amazing about the O200. What is amazing, is the LSI, and his FI, and the prop that he made. Also all of the other changes that was made to the airframe.
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What he said.
Klaus has been tweaking this setup for a lot of years. It is the sum of a lot of small improvements, to an already "vari" efficient airframe
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07-09-2008, 07:26 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Pasadena CA
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Not saying the RV-12 is a comparable airplane, but the O-200 has been discounted as a poor choice for a long time (Compared to a Rotax 912) and I think this helps prove that it can be a great little motor. You should see what we do with them in Forumla 1.
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07-09-2008, 09:05 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Mill Creek, WA
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This is certainly not in Klaus's league, but my RV-3B has surprised me with its efficiency. Here's an EFIS screen dump from a recent trip to SoCal, check out the numbers...
I had planned a fuel stop on the flight from Portland to Rosamond and we ended up skipping it flying non-stop 833 sm. 188 mph TAS on 5.4 gph resulting in 35.3 statute miles per gallon (lower left corner), she's a fairly efficient little bird.
Dan Checkoway hosted an E-race a while back, I'd like to see more of this sort of thing.
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07-10-2008, 07:10 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 63
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A truly efficient plane
I wonder what this guy could do.
He achieved "213.18 mph on AR-5's 65-hp Rotax 582 two-stroke (emphasis mine) engine"
I'm excited that the fuel prices are driving up innovation. I just hope that innovation stays ahead of extinction of pilots.
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