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05-04-2008, 10:13 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Jersey shore, (Pt Pleasant) NJ
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Found right aileron down 1/4 inch, fixed the rigging & waiting for Wx to fly & see effects.
While measuring it seems the right aileron may be mounted low about 3/32 at the rivet line as compared to no gap on the left. Does anyone have an idea of how much roll this would produce, or how much pressure req'd to keep level flight.
as said before, heavy wing was only at speeds above 120kts
-Rich
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05-07-2008, 04:37 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Jersey shore, (Pt Pleasant) NJ
Posts: 17
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heavy wing update
So, after rigging & re-rigging (seems when lucy flies, things move)
the ailerons are in trail, & flaps coordinate.
Called Vans about what now & the aileron squeeze technique...
of course in the manual & the wing heavy notice on Vans web site
it says to fly for 10 or so hours to make sure the condition is Really really there. then Ken @ Vans said to tape on a trim tab/wooden wedge to make sure that fixes the problem. (trim tab simulates the edge squeeze, who knew!) once it flies well with the trim tab, you can squeeze to remove the trim tab. yada yada yada
I taped wedge to the right aileron, flew GREAT! or as my test pilot said
"it's now a joy to fly"
my wedge is 4.5" in board to out
2.5" forward to aft
tapers from 0 to .25"
attached with aviation grade 'Scotch Blue Painters Tape'
So, now LUCY seems ready for me, it's the I that's the hold-up
I've gotten about 5 of the Insurance req'd 10 hours in type, hope to have
the rest with in about a week.
My transition training started of pretty rocky this morning, but things progressed and the end of the day went well. Really looking forward to more time in the air.
That's my story & I'm stickin to it!
-Rich
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05-07-2008, 09:36 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 571
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yakdriver
Rich, One nice thing about the riveted rudder trailing edge is that you can massage it for rudder trim and its barely noticeable that it has a slight bend. Don
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Don, what exactly does that mean? Did you take a seamer and just bend the trailing edge instead of adding a wedge or something similar? Sounds too simple ;-)
Thanks Bill S
7a finishing
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05-07-2008, 10:36 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Twin Falls, ID
Posts: 683
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Bill, I just used a 1x2x12 and just massaged some right trim in it. Do it along the whole trailing edge and it it hardly noticeable. Mine flew about half a ball out and it only took about 1/32" bend along the trailing edge at the rivet line. I just held the 1x2 as a guide and gently tweeked it. My airplane flys hands off at almost any airspeed now. Don
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07-06-2008, 04:32 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Neptune NJ
Posts: 1
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07-06-2008, 05:41 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: College Station, TX
Posts: 2
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I am Rich's niece. I was also going to post the link to the news article, but someone already beat me to it. Thank you.
I'm sure y'all already know this, but he loved flying and he loved LUCY. Every time he came home it was all he could talk about! He kept us updated with pictures and would send us any news articles his little town would write about his plane.
They are calling him a hero in Point Pleasant and we're very proud of him. Please keep us in your thoughts and prayers during this tragic time.
If anyone figures out what went wrong with the plane, please post it here. We would all like to know what happened or what probably/might have happened. (Forgive us, we know nothing about planes!)
Last edited by 916RomeoNiece : 07-06-2008 at 05:44 PM.
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07-07-2008, 12:47 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pine Junction, CO
Posts: 655
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3 RV's in one weekkend
While I did not know any of the pilots of the 3 fatal RV crashes this weekend it sure feels like I did. My heartfelt condolences go out to all the families.
Lets keep it safe out there guys!
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Pine Junction, Colorado
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07-08-2008, 08:55 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: The Beautiful NJ Shore
Posts: 409
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Texan living in NJ
For the last few years I have had the pleasure to know Rich Jahns. He was a great guy who always seemed to find the time when you needed help. This was the case with every one of his friends I have met over the past few years.
He had been precise and meticulous in his Phase 1 testing. The first 7 to 11 hours were flown by a local test pilot (comm/CFII) who has a few thousand hours of tailwheel time. While this was going on, Rich went and got the insurance-required transition training. He messaged me after His first flight with "Woo Hoo!!!".
One of his goals with the plane was to be able to freely fly between NJ and TX to visit family and friends more often. He even had routes pre-planned and intended to fly there later this summer after Phase 1 was completed.
The only problem I was aware of was that his #2 cylinder CHT was running 50-70 degrees cooler than the others. But all the numbers were in the green.
There will be a large number of people who will miss him.
For the latest information:
http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...NTPAGECAROUSEL
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07-08-2008, 04:04 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: In Walter Mitty's dreams
Posts: 947
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Heavy Heart
Rich (916Romeo), you will be missed.......
Best
Brian Wallis
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Callsign: VOODOO sold RV3 to pay for ratings  !!!
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07-08-2008, 07:05 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Savannah, GA
Posts: 1,849
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 916RomeoNiece
I am Rich's niece. I was also going to post the link to the news article, but someone already beat me to it. Thank you.
I'm sure y'all already know this, but he loved flying and he loved LUCY. Every time he came home it was all he could talk about! He kept us updated with pictures and would send us any news articles his little town would write about his plane.
They are calling him a hero in Point Pleasant and we're very proud of him. Please keep us in your thoughts and prayers during this tragic time.
If anyone figures out what went wrong with the plane, please post it here. We would all like to know what happened or what probably/might have happened. (Forgive us, we know nothing about planes!)
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Sorry to hear about your loss!
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RV-10 Vesta V8 LS2/BMA EFIS/One formerly flying at 3J1 Hobbs stopped at 150 hours
Savannah, GA and Ridgeland, SC
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