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Old 06-23-2008, 08:17 PM
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I?m in need of some suggestions. My engine runs hot and the only thing I can think of is that is running too lean. The engine has 12 hours on it and as long as I keep above 110kts and below 2400rpm cylinder head temps run 390F spread 10 to 15 degrees with no.1 cyl. leading the others, oil 195-200F. When power is applied no.4 cyl. Start taking the lead and the oil temps start rising also. This is what I have:
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Sam James Cowl and plenum
0320-D2 160hp
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Old 06-23-2008, 08:32 PM
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What model carb... besides a 4
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Old 06-23-2008, 08:41 PM
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pulling the mixture knob the RPM's should rise significantly before quitting.

At least on the idle jet...not sure how that relates to the rest of the throttle position range.

The Sam James cowl is usually pretty good at cooling so I doubt if there is a significant problem there.

I have FI so I'n not an expert by any means but I thought I read some scuttlebutt that the carb should be the "rich carb" or have richer jets in it for some reason than compared to say a C172.

But thats just from memory..Van's can tell you for sure if somebody doesn't pipe up here.

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Old 06-23-2008, 08:41 PM
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do you have pics of your plenum install? EI or mags? If mags, what plugs are you running?
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Old 06-23-2008, 08:43 PM
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Are all of your fairings in place? Have you plugged the tunnel between the upper inlet ramps and cowl to prevent high pressure air from escaping via that path?

To determine if your engine is running lean, try easing the mixture out to see how much mixture change it takes to cause the engine to stumble. Also, at a 1,000 rpm idle, slooooowly pull the mixture. Note the RPM rise before the engine begins to lose RPM. You should see a 50 RPM or so increase before the engine starts to lose revs. If you see less than a 25 rpm rise, you need to adjust the mixture on your carb.

Unfortunately, I don't have a carb diagram in front of me, but you can probably search the Matronics RV-list archives for which of the two adjustment screws to turn and how much.
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Old 06-23-2008, 08:47 PM
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pulling the mixture knob the RPM's should rise significantly before quitting.

At least on the idle jet...not sure how that relates to the rest of the throttle position range.

The Sam James cowl is usually pretty good at cooling so I doubt if there is a significant problem there.

I have FI so I'n not an expert by any means but I thought I read some scuttlebutt that the carb should be the "rich carb" or have richer jets in it for some reason than compared to say a C172.

But thats just from memory..Van's can tell you for sure if somebody doesn't pipe up here.

Frank
I've seen some installs of the SJ plenum that would'nt cool a *$#@! in a swimming pool.
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Old 06-23-2008, 08:59 PM
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Unfortunately, I don't have a carb diagram in front of me, but you can probably search the Matronics RV-list archives for which of the two adjustment screws to turn and how much.
An O-320 will have an MA4SPA carb.
It only has one mixture adjusting screw (same for all of the carbs used on Lycomings) which is for adjusting idle mixture. It has negligible (if any) effect on mixture at anything other than idle throttle setting.

A good check for evaluating mixture at near wide open throttle is to see what type of EGT rise you can get between full rich setting, and peak EGT at 8000 ft. You should probably see at least 150 degree difference and 200 or more would be typical.

Make a test flight when the air is cooler (morning) and see what you get between mixture full rich and leaned to peak.
Another ting to check is be certain that the mixture arm on the carb is hitting the full rich stop when the mixture knob is pushed all the way in (a proper installation will always have a small witness gap between the control knob and the base when mixture, prop. or throttle are pushed full in).
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I've seen some installs of the SJ plenum that would'nt cool a *$#@! in a swimming pool.
If the SJ cowl is installed properly it should work just fine...
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Old 06-23-2008, 09:19 PM
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GP,

What about your ignition? What kind do you have and is it set up and timed properly?
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Old 06-23-2008, 09:53 PM
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Are the fiberglass ramps installed in the upper cowl? I've seen 3 RV's now with these omitted and temp problems just like you describe. Okay, one of them was mine. Putting them in for the second flight changed everything for the good.
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