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05-25-2008, 09:07 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Calgary, Canada
Posts: 5,745
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RV-10 Windshield/ Window Bonding
I've read and searched as many posts on bonding canopies, windows and windshields as I can find here on VAF and on the net. Lots of info.
I'm about ready to start the final agony with windows and doors.
How many -10 builders used Weld-On 10 to bond the transparencies on and how have they held up in service so far? Cracks? Any tips on using the stuff?
How many used alternate products such as Sikaflex 295? How has that turned out in service? Tips?
Would you do the same thing again? What did you like least about the system you used? What kind of working times do you have with these products? How did you clamp or hold windows in position while curing? 
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05-25-2008, 09:10 AM
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Senior Curmudgeon
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
Posts: 15,408
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I am planning on using epoxy for my windows.
My buddy did that on his 10, been in service for a year now, with no problems.
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Mike Starkey
VAF 909
Rv-10, N210LM.
Flying as of 12/4/2010
Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011 
Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.
"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."
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05-25-2008, 09:19 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Calgary, Canada
Posts: 5,745
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I was thinking along the same lines but am open minded to all ideas. What brand did he use?
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05-25-2008, 09:22 AM
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Senior Curmudgeon
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
Posts: 15,408
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Pretty sure it was West system. And thickened with flox, and cabosil, IIRC.
I will check and get back to you with a definite answer.
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Mike Starkey
VAF 909
Rv-10, N210LM.
Flying as of 12/4/2010
Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011 
Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.
"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."
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05-25-2008, 09:27 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 52
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Window bonding
This subject has been hammered to death on the Matroinics RV-10 list. Suggest you check over there as well.
cheers,
Ron
-10 almost done.
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05-25-2008, 11:50 PM
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Senior Curmudgeon
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
Posts: 15,408
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rmcgann
This subject has been hammered to death on the Matroinics RV-10 list. Suggest you check over there as well.
cheers,
Ron
-10 almost done.
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Matroinics????
What is that????
You mean there is another RV site, besides VAF??
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Mike Starkey
VAF 909
Rv-10, N210LM.
Flying as of 12/4/2010
Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011 
Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.
"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."
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05-26-2008, 05:22 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Delaware, OH (KDLZ)
Posts: 4,194
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Yes.....
It started as and is still a mailing list. There is also a forum version for online viewing.
http://forums.matronics.com/viewforu...374500380fdfd1
There are many other topics too, other than the RV-10.
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05-26-2008, 06:25 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Albany, GA for the moment
Posts: 294
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I used the Hysol EA9360. It's what Lancair recommends for bonding their windows, and it's data sheet does recommend it for plexi. It has a pot life of about an hour; I was able to do 2 windows at a time without any issues or having to rush. It's also thicker than the Weld-On, especially if you add a little flox to it, so it's not nearly as messy. Supposed to have excellent bond strength, although my airplane isn't flying yet so I can't report on any issues with cracking, etc.
The reason I went with the Hysol is because it took longer to get to the windows than I thought, so my Weld-On expired and no way was I going to use expired stuff and have it not stick. Plus I started hearing about what a mess the Weld-On was and that there were issues with cracking so I went with the Hysol based on a recommendation from the Matronics list. The only thing to be careful of is the Hysol is bright blue, so you have to be careful where you get it unless you plan to paint over it.
PJ Seipel
RV-10 #40032
Last edited by PJSeipel : 05-26-2008 at 09:51 AM.
Reason: Added some more info.
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05-26-2008, 09:07 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Calgary, Canada
Posts: 5,745
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Thanks for the tips guys, I'll do some more research along these lines. 
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05-26-2008, 01:58 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Oklahoma City
Posts: 122
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rleffler
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Since the Matronics RV-10 traffic is about 10 to 1 to maybe 20 to 1 for what you will see here I would say there is another RV-10 list. 
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