Poll: How will you build your 12?

[Newbie_Doo]

Hmmm...

I am unable to get more than a blank screen when clicking through the link to the imageshack profile. I am pretty computer savvy, so I am sure it must be a configuration issue on my end, although I have gone so far as to turn off all my firewalls, anti-virus, and even changed browsers (with the settings on low security ). No dice. Neither IE nor Firefox will let me view anything more than a blank page.

I'll keep trying...

N_D

[Brooklands]

Very Strange,

I can't see Jim's pictures on my work PC - I get a blank screen like several others, but I can see them from my home PC. It must be a firewall or web cache problem.

GBLWY - please check you PMs.

Brooklands

[Newbie_Doo]

Originally Posted by Brooklands

Very Strange,

I can't see Jim's pictures on my work PC - I get a blank screen like several others, but I can see them from my home PC. It must be a firewall or web cache problem.

GBLWY - please check you PMs.

Brooklands

I am now convinced it is an issue with Imageshack. I registered for an account with them and am able to see my own profile from a public computer. But, when I try Jim's page I get blanks. HTML code is just "body /body" with no data. I have tried several different PCs, on different networks, from different ISP's. No luck. It is likely a replication issue within their hosting facility.

<sigh>

I guess I'll have to wait until later to view...

[Davepar]

Originally Posted by JerryG150

Since Van's SLSA will have no autopilot...

I believe this is incorrect. Someone should ask Vans to be sure, but I think there will be an AP option for the RV-12.

[lawspud]

Originally Posted by Davepar

I believe this is incorrect. Someone should ask Vans to be sure, but I think there will be an AP option for the RV-12.

There are switches and (apparently) circuits for an AP, nav lights, and landing lights on the Proof of Kit prototype, but I don't think those items will be installed on the S-LSA submission. Which would mean that E-LSA RV-12's won't have them either...unless...

Perhaps Mel (or others) can clarify, but I believe that the E-LSA can deviate from the S-LSA prototype so long as the kit manufacturer has approved the change in writing. What I'm hoping is that Van's will have a set of pre-approved options that builders can install and request a stock "E-LSA deviation form" (or whatever they call it). If not, I'll shoot for E-AB registration and add the AP on my own.

Since it looks like they're using the Dynon 180, adding an autopilot is a no-brainer.

By the way, how will they handle wing wiring with the detachable wings?

[Phyrcooler]

I also thought that Mel confirmed here somewhere that you can add these things later to an E-LSA... as long as it doesn't take it out of the LSA parameters. So if Van doesn't approve them, you could build it as an E-LSA - prepped for the options you want... then plug them in after it receives it's cert. More of a pain of course... but an option.

If my memory serves me correctly... which it doesn't always do!

DJ

[DaveLS]

Possible Future Options
At SunNFun on Saturday, I asked Ken Kruegur of Vans if switches and empty fuse slots for lights, autopilot, and other stuff were for planned options. He smiled. Clearly indicating that was exactly why they were there. My guess is that right now they have more pressing things to work on, like getting LSA certification and getting the next section of the kit out and will get to these 'options' when they can.

Hole Size & Deburring
Ken also confirmed that the fastener holes are full size and most will not require deburring. When deburring is needed, it is called out in the plans.

Photo Links
Jim's photo link works for me, both at the office (pc running xp) and home (mac).

Vansaircraft - RV12 page - for some reason did not load the new RV412 photos, info sheet, or order form for a few days earlier this week on the office machine, BUT did at home. Then yesterday the stuff started to show up on the office machine. Computers, who knows?

Wing Plans
Lastly, Ken promised to put the wing instruction book on the company site for download in a week or two after he gets back from SunNFun

Special Thanks
Jim you are the man. Ten days and two wing skeletons ? wow! Thanks for the build photos. Please keep them coming.

-Dave

[jamescone]

Originally Posted by Brooklands

Very Strange,

I can't see Jim's pictures on my work PC - I get a blank screen like several others, but I can see them from my home PC. It must be a firewall or web cache problem.

GBLWY - please check you PMs.

Brooklands

A number of people have said that they can't open the pictures and I don't have any idea why. It has to be an issue with the settings on the computers that can't open them because so many others can get them. I posted more pictures today. I have completed both wing structures and will start putting the skins on tomorrow. Perhaps one of the moderators can put them on my posts for those who are having trouble with imageshack.

[bigbill25]

Originally Posted by jamescone

A number of people have said that they can't open the pictures and I don't have any idea why.

Can people see them if I direct link them here (hope you don't mind, Jim)?

[bigbill25]

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