Why I picked Subaru.

[Steve A]

Is smoother than Lycoming due to smaller cylinders, 7 main bearings, less displacement.

Doesn't drip oil due to better clearances and block doesn't expand/contract as much.

The Subaru has a great heater and defroster combo for cold weather climes.

Can use either 93 auto fuel vs 100 leaded. Obviously a real advantage overseas where 100 leaded is very expensive or unavailable.

No mixture control, ECM determines proper mixture.

Easier hot starts, with fuel returned to tank the hot starts are easier.

Lycoming makes a great product. Their the leader and using an Alternative/Subaru is not for everyone. I guess that's why we are building an Experimental airplane, to experiment and recreat.

One thing we can all agree one, the number one college team...LSU

Thank goodness the BCS is so endowed with intelligence to pick the perfect teams to play for the NC.

RV 7A H-6
Finishing or almost finished.
Lafayette Louisiana

[Rick6a]

Originally Posted by Steve A

Why I picked Subaru....

Why I picked Lycoming: Resale Value.

Seriously, I know I am not going to be able to fly forever and the reason I and many people choose to go with a proven powerplant is because we instinctively know that at some point we may have to sell. Basic marketing teaches us it is always best to give the customer want he wants. I know of one well made homebuilt once described in a magazine article that sports a Chevy engine. The bottom line is that airplane has been languishing on the market despite a deep reduction in asking price for well over two years now. It is only human and natural for me to contrast that undeniable reality with a first hand experience selling my stock but well maintained C-150 I put on the market and sold for top dollar several weeks later, despite those who thought I was crazy for turning down quicker and lesser offers.

I am not a gearhead...far from it. I do admire those groundbreaking individuals who are fascinated by and continue down a developmental path, remaining ever hopeful of coming up with a design that will eclipse the refined...yes refined Lycoming engine. From what I see though....it just ain't happening yet. It is not in my nature to tweak and retweak. I need somebody to boldly go where I won't go because I just wanna build and fly. Its hard enough to keep the airplane airworthy without piling on additional worry about FWF reliability any more than I have to and almost as importantly, when the time comes....worrying about turning off the overwhelming majority of potential buyers. Like it or not, perception IS reality.

[frankh]

Originally Posted by Steve A

Is smoother than Lycoming due to smaller cylinders, 7 main bearings, less displacement.

Thats nice

Doesn't drip oil due to better clearances and block doesn't expand/contract as much.

Lycomings drip oil?...Mine doesn't

The Subaru has a great heater and defroster combo for cold weather climes.

And takes forever to warm up...At least my Subaru did on my last airplane.

Can use either 93 auto fuel vs 100 leaded. Obviously a real advantage overseas where 100 leaded is very expensive or unavailable.

Exactly the same as a Lycoming then...I mean exactly!


No mixture control, ECM determines proper mixture.

Does your ECM allow for lean of peak operations...If not your losing about 1.5 GPH of fuel savings

Easier hot starts, with fuel returned to tank the hot starts are easier.

And with my purge valve on my AFP system thats exactly the same..I do have electric fuel pumps only so that may help...i don't know what a hot start issue is.

Lycoming makes a great product. Their the leader and using an Alternative/Subaru is not for everyone. I guess that's why we are building an Experimental airplane, to experiment and recreat.

Yup I did and after the Subaru tried to kill me three times I went the traditional route...This was a less then steller engine conversion though and i had to do major re-engineering to make it safe.

One thing we can all agree one, the number one college team...LSU

Hang we're not done yet..I bet your Soob conversion is heavier and your resale value won't be as high.

You have extra failure points, reduction drive, water pump, radiators that can leak, water hoses etc.

i think you probably spent about the same amout of money too.

Thank goodness the BCS is so endowed with intelligence to pick the perfect teams to play for the NC.

America is the only place in the world that calls football something other than a game played with a round ball and played with the foot!

RV 7A H-6
Finishing or almost finished.
Lafayette Louisiana

I do agree I can't get parts at NAPA...

Tell me why a Soob is so great again?....

Have fun with your airplane...If your happy then so am I..

Frank

[Dgamble]

Originally Posted by Steve A

One thing we can all agree one, the number one college team...LSU

Ouch! I'm closer to agreeing on the Subie (I drive two of them and love them, but fly a Lycoming) than I am to agreeing on that last part!

[Steve A]

Ouch! I'm closer to agreeing on the Subie (I drive two of them and love them, but fly a Lycoming) than I am to agreeing on that last part!


I guess you are saying you chose Subaru engines in the toughest environment possible... in your car. Further speculation on my part assumes your wife's car is powered by Subaru. Obviously you want a dependable engine for someone you love, and don't want to break down in a dark dangerous neighborhood. I guess I can live with that.

Regarding the last part, I see OSU is picked in the top ten and only has two seniors graduating. As ESPN said the other day, the start of college football is only months away.

RV 7A H-6
Finishing
Lafayette, La.

[captainron]

Originally Posted by Steve A

Ouch! I'm closer to agreeing on the Subie (I drive two of them and love them, but fly a Lycoming) than I am to agreeing on that last part!


I guess you are saying you chose Subaru engines in the toughest environment possible... in your car. Further speculation on my part assumes your wife's car is powered by Subaru. Obviously you want a dependable engine for someone you love, and don't want to break down in a dark dangerous neighborhood. I guess I can live with that.

Regarding the last part, I see OSU is picked in the top ten and only has two seniors graduating. As ESPN said the other day, the start of college football is only months away.

RV 7A H-6
Finishing
Lafayette, La.

Then why not choose Hyundai, or some other car manufacturer that believes their car engines are good enough in "the toughest environment" to give them a ten year, or 100,000 mile warranty?

[Geico266]

Originally Posted by Steve A

One thing we can all agree one, the number one college team...LSU

We got your defensive coach as our head coach. Bo Pelini dropped LSU like a bad habbit when he had the chance to be head coach here. We'll see in a few seasons who is on top. BOfense rules.

GO BIG RED!

On your choice of engines? One word, and Rick6A said it. Resale.

[captainron]

Maybe if Hyundai could learn from Subaru who knew that their engines could end up powering airplanes, then maybe they could redesign them to accept the unique loads imparted on them from aircraft propellers while they are running at over 5000 continuous RPM's. I'm glad that at least Subaru took this approach, and maybe the Koreans won't let this market get away either. Hopefully soon you'll be able fly for a little while behind either of these great engines!

[whifof100ll]

LSU IS the undisputed #1 college football team.

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But I'll stick with my Lycoming, thank you.

[Geico266]

Originally Posted by whifof100ll

LSU IS the undisputed #1 college football team.

Without a doubt.





For now.