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Old 11-30-2007, 06:26 PM
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Jim,

I attached the antennas to the glareshield with small velcro patches. The wires pass down through a small hole in the glareshield which you wouldn't see unless you were looking for it. The 396 is in an Airgizmo panel mount.

I have logged 244 hours in the past 14 months. These hours were logged flying from the Atlanta area under lots of different conditions. I have traveled to south Florida, northern Maine, southwest Texas, and many places in between with no reception problems. If you are a purist who can't stand anything on the panel then find another place. This works and it's an easy installation. I like easy. An advantage to this I could even take the XM antenna out in a couple of minutes and take the unit and antenna with me. In some places without convenient internet access such as camping you can get weather while you are away from the plane.

Just my experience.

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Old 11-30-2007, 09:38 PM
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Jim,

My comments on your options...worth what you paid for it. ; )

1) Glareshield Mount - this is a great place from a reception/ease of wiring standpoint, but I would not recommend it. Installations I have seen with this mounting have a large glare that reflects off the canopy from the shiny antenna.

2) Under Cowl - I think this depends...are you planning to use a WAAS receiver (430W, etc.)? If so, I probably would NOT mount them there. There is significant RF shielding to the back of the antenna (big metal fuselage back there), and the WAAS reception is very sensitive to satellite mask angle. I know many people will post positive experience with their old NON-WAAS installations in that location (maybe it's OK), but I think people will have a higher likelihood of problems with the WAAS reception.

In the end, mine will likely go on top of the fuselage and I will pay the 0.15 knot penalty. ; )

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Old 12-01-2007, 08:08 AM
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I first followed Dan C's example mouting the GPS antenna on a shelf on the firewall. Then, I found it interfering with my cowl hinge pin insertion. Later I borrowed another idea from Dan C and cut two access holes on my front top skin. These access panels are made of aluminum frame and fiberglass center. My GPS antenna is mounted under one of the panels. I was going to mount the WX antenna under the other. Due to the delay of GRT WX box, I did not get to do it before my first flight. Now I put the WX antenna at a corner under windshield. They both work well and never lossed signals.

Just as what Paul said that glareshield mount antennas cause reflection on the windshield. Not good for taking photos.

A word of caution, a few months ago several people warmed about the potential problem of access panel weakening the top skin. I only have less than 300 hours on my 9A and can not be sure about whether it is going to be okay for the long run.
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Old 12-01-2007, 08:34 AM
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Thumbs up Works fine on the glare shield

I have the XM antenna and a small TruTrak antenna velcroed to the glareshield on my RV-6 tip-up. Both receive solid signals (except when the GPS is corrupted "near" Holloman) and I've never noticed any glare issue. The only glare in my configuration would be so low that I'd have to be staring at the engine cowl to notice it, I think. As previously noted, this set-up allows easy removal when tied down on a questionable ramp or when I want the weather in the car.
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Old 12-01-2007, 08:37 AM
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I have not noticed any glare from the antennas, but I mounted them on the passenger sider just in case.
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Old 12-01-2007, 09:08 AM
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I have not noticed any glare from the antennas, but I mounted them on the passenger sider just in case.
Actually, I put them on the passenger side, too. But, I haven't noticed any glare when Paul was flying left seat.
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Old 12-01-2007, 09:15 AM
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On the tip-up canopy I install the antennae aft of the roll bar where the support brace joins the roll bar. One in each corner. They are out of the way there and have a clear view of the sky.
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Old 12-01-2007, 12:58 PM
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Norman.

Do you have any pictures of your install?

Thanks,
Scott
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Old 12-01-2007, 02:40 PM
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I never noticed any canopy reflection either from my glare shield mounted XM and GPS antennea. Just be sure, though, I ops check the set up today for about three hours down and back to the Little River fly in. Sky was crystal clear and lunch was superb. Also, this was my first time listening to Iron Maiden while flying! I felt like a teenager again!
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Old 12-01-2007, 06:30 PM
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I ended up attaching them behind the compass with Velcro tabs from Home Depot - 2 on the GPS and 4 on the XM - may have to use a crow bar to get them off! Wires pass through a single, split 1/4" ID by 1" OD grommet and then through the center lightening hole on the canopy brace. I'll feed the compass light wires through it too. I had to sand the ribs on the GPS connector by a few thou to get it to slip through the 3/4" grommet hole in the glare shield.

Pilot's eye view shows black GPS antenna blending into glare shield and the XM antenna largely hidden behind the compass. Looks good so far.

Thanks for all the input.
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