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Old 11-13-2007, 08:41 AM
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Default Pnuematic Rivet Squeezer Question

I am in the market for a rivet squeezer. I am clear that a 214 style is preferred. What I am not clear on is the adjustable set holder. Is that an accessory item or are certain squeezers built with an adjustable set holder? I have looked at several tool sites and do not see any options for an adjustable set holder.

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Old 11-13-2007, 10:26 AM
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http://www.averytools.com/pc-471-13-...squeezers.aspx
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Old 11-13-2007, 10:34 AM
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I am in the market for a rivet squeezer. I am clear that a 214 style is preferred. What I am not clear on is the adjustable set holder. Is that an accessory item or are certain squeezers built with an adjustable set holder? I have looked at several tool sites and do not see any options for an adjustable set holder.

Thanks,
Eulice
As CaptRon stated, give Avery's call. Yes, you want the adjustable set holder. It will allow you to adjust the stroke for different length rivets and dies.
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Old 11-13-2007, 11:39 AM
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The ram moves a set distance with each stroke, but rivets need to be set to different lengths, depending on the size (length) of the rivet. Without the adjustable set holder, you adjust the squeeze length by using sets of different heights and putting washers under the rivet sets. This is a real nuisance and time waster. You could make it easier by being systematic and recording somewhere which rivet sets and the number and thicknesses of washers needed for each rivet. Or you could use the adjustable set holder and simply record the number of turns from full closure you need for each rivet size. I suspect most folks skip the last step & simply set it up each time by trial and error--you get pretty good at it after you use it awhile and it's pretty quick.

There are times when you are doing a lot of rivets and you have a rivet of a different size now & then. Without the adjustable set holder you really waste a lot of time switching sets back & forth.

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Old 11-13-2007, 12:04 PM
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Default Another Squeezer Question

Thanks for the info about the adjustable set holder. It was very informative. Let me ask another question. What size yoke's do you need. Seems to me the larger the better unless there are places that are difficult to access. My anticipated application is an RV-10, slow build.

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Old 11-13-2007, 12:13 PM
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Thanks for the info about the adjustable set holder. It was very informative. Let me ask another question. What size yoke's do you need. Seems to me the larger the better unless there are places that are difficult to access. My anticipated application is an RV-10, slow build.

Eulice
I must admit that I generally keep a 4" yoke on my squeezer, as it will generally works for most applications (except where your working inside someplace, and it is just too huge). This weekend, however, Louise and I were working on a project and her hands tired very quickly because frankly, the thing is HEAVY! It never really bothered me that much, but it is a serious consideration if you're going to be doing a lot of riveting where you are cantilevering the thing off you hand.

I better understand the folks that complain about the weight of the squeezer now - but I still wouldn't want to build without one. Just thought I'd point out that bigger isn't always better for yokes.

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Old 11-13-2007, 12:59 PM
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Thanks for the info about the adjustable set holder. It was very informative. Let me ask another question. What size yoke's do you need. Seems to me the larger the better unless there are places that are difficult to access. My anticipated application is an RV-10, slow build.

Eulice
I bought four yokes: the 3" as a catch-all, the no-hole yoke for tight spaces, the longeron yoke for those rivets that sit behind wide flanges. You'll be able to squeeze 99% of the suqeezable rivets with that trio.

I also bought a 4 incher to do the the aileron brackets but those rivets are unsqueezable. The yoke actually reached all the way to the back of the rear spar but the problem was that the yokes (they're all the same width) are too wide to get a perpendicular shot at the rivets - the side or front of the yoke hit the side of the bracket first. Also, the 4" yoke is so massive (it's beefier to account for the extra length) that it really makes the (already heavy sqeezer) make its precence felt.

Paul alluded to this above.
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:07 PM
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I only have the 4" no-hole (thin nose) yoke and the longeron yoke for my squeezer, and the longeron yoke is on there about 95% of the time.

To be honest, I only squeeze when I can't buck (rudder horn brace, for instance), so for someone who squeezes a lot, they may prefer to also have the regular 3" yoke. The thing is heavy, and does get tiring after a while, plus it is awkward. I do have the adjustable set holder, and would probably never use the squeezer if I didn't have this part.
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Old 11-13-2007, 02:37 PM
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I have a longeron, 3" standard, and 4" no hole.

You can get by with just the longeron and 4" no hole, but the 4" no hole gets heavy. Somedays, I wish I had a 1" no hole, but I've been too cheap to purchase another yoke.
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Old 03-23-2011, 12:25 AM
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Default Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer

Planning my tools for a 9A and wonder if a pneumatic squeezer is a nice to have?

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