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Old 09-07-2007, 01:33 PM
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Boot current tenant, get new tenant who is an airplane builder!
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Old 09-07-2007, 08:27 PM
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Hi John,



My wife, daughter and I lived in San Francisco for seven years. We loved it! First we lived in Pac Heights, then Laurel Hill, and my raised our daughter for two years in the Inner Richmond. You can definitely build your 8 in a one car garage and build parts in your ?robotic work shop.? I strongly recommend joining EAA chapter 1268 which meets on the second Tuesday of every Month at Sonoma Skypark airport. http://www.sonomaskypark.com/Pages/EAAchapter1268.html Email me, and I will send you the phone number of my buddy Greg who can teach you everything about riveting. I also recommend that you build the first few parts in one of the hangers at Sonoma Skypark. A few members have finished RVs. The people there are really great. There would be a dozen people there that would give you a hand building the first few parts (maybe even more) of the empennage. That way you would not have to purchase any tools until you had a little experience.



Jae Chang is building a RV-10 in San Francisco. You can follow his blog at http://www.jline.com/log/aviation/build/



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Old 09-08-2007, 07:10 AM
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I built my slow build kit RV-8 in a shop that was 10' wide by 25' long. Wings, fuse, tail. The narrow shop was not really a problem.

Noise when riveting is very loud. I would not recommend it in the apartment. As to squeezing rivets, yes, it's silent, but the only place you can do that is on the edges of panels. In the grand scheme of things, I'd say squeezing constituted 5% of all the riveting...and in a slow build 8, there's a ton of riveting, which is my favorite part.

I'd vote on the garage and plan on insulating the door and other parts for courtesy to the tenants. Compressors are loud.

I'd use the spare room for parts staging/storing. ONce you get past the tail, the kit parts are big, so they need room, and you have to get really creative on how to keep storing and moving all the finished parts without damaging them.

It's all part of the game, which is fun. Go for it. I've been at mine on and off for 6 years (two house moves in there too) and I"m a few days away from heading to the airport.

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Old 09-08-2007, 08:44 AM
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thanks everyone for all the great advice.

things are moving forward on my project.

the wife has given me use of the living room that attaches to my shop with double sliding doors, so I now have an envyable workspace. it's narrow, but I've determined that with a little wrangling I'll even be able to hang the wings indoors (fuse will have to go out the window when done).

I'm afraid riveting indoors is just a fact of life. even the basement would not be a help, as it's right below the same tenants (would be just as loud).

I'm going to dimple with the quiet "press-type" dimpler as suggested, and squeeze whenever I can. I get every other friday off, so those will be riveting days as well as one day a weekend. I'll also try to soundproof with foam.

Jonathan, I sent you a regular email. thanks for the info. I'd love to get that contact from you.

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Old 09-08-2007, 09:46 PM
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John,

Thanks for the heads-up that you emailed me. For some reason your email was in my spam folder. I emailed you Greg's and Roy's (an other memeber) phone numbers.
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