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09-02-2007, 10:57 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Yellowknife, Northwest Territories, Candaa
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Anyone have good ol IFR steam gauges in their 10's
I'm seriously looking on starting a 10. I was wondering if any of you folks have 10's with steam gauges. I see King Silver crown systems for sale quite cheap due to guys upgrading to Garmin Glass.
I fly Turboprops for a living with steam gauges in some really hard IFR. I'm kind of used to the ol six pack that has served us well for the last 50 years. I have a nice set up in my Cherokee right now with a 90B slaved up. Works great, never any trouble. My only peeve is that the HSI's are quiet $$$$ and heavy. Though I dont mind having 2 standard CDI's and a DG.
Thoughts,
Rob Grootarz
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09-02-2007, 11:35 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
Posts: 15,408
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Scroll up to the thread titled "Show us your RV-10 Panel"
I have installed both glass, and round in my 10. You will see other examples of what other folks are doing.
Not flying yet, nor am I IFR, although I may go that route after the 10 is done.
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Rv-10, N210LM.
Flying as of 12/4/2010 
Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011
Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.
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09-02-2007, 11:51 PM
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
Posts: 1,324
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Originally Posted by planedriver
I'm seriously looking on starting a 10. I was wondering if any of you folks have 10's with steam gauges. I see King Silver crown systems for sale quite cheap due to guys upgrading to Garmin Glass.
I fly Turboprops for a living with steam gauges in some really hard IFR. I'm kind of used to the ol six pack that has served us well for the last 50 years. I have a nice set up in my Cherokee right now with a 90B slaved up. Works great, never any trouble. My only peeve is that the HSI's are quiet $$$$ and heavy. Though I dont mind having 2 standard CDI's and a DG.
Thoughts,
Rob Grootarz
C-GSXG
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Rob,
I'm with you on this one. I spent a career flying steam gauges and built an airplane that looks "normal" to me. I did push it a little with a Garmin 430. Build what makes you happy.
John Clark
RV8 N18U "Sunshine"
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09-03-2007, 04:05 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Indian Harbour Beach
Posts: 87
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Kinda like wives,
some feel more comfortable with what they've had for years
some want the newest out there
sometimes you have to go with what fits your budget
but in the dark, they all do the same thing |
09-03-2007, 04:57 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Louisville, Ga
Posts: 7,840
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Cost and weight
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Originally Posted by planedriver
I'm seriously looking on starting a 10. I was wondering if any of you folks have 10's with steam gauges. I see King Silver crown systems for sale quite cheap due to guys upgrading to Garmin Glass.
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Thoughts,
Rob Grootarz
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Rob,
I too, have steam gauges but a new Enigma Stratomaster is around $3500 for everything including probes and sensors and the weight saved is around 11 Lbs. and no vacuum pump to worry about. It also has an encoder, a built in GPS system and their own HITS system. All the engine gauges are there including a trip computer, fuel used, fuel remaining, blah, blah. The cost is so much better as well. I'm upgrading to glass soon.
Regards,
Pierre
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RV-10, 510 TT
RV6A (Sojourner) 180 HP, Catto 3 Bl (502Hrs), gone...and already missed
Air Tractor AT 502B PT 6-15 Sold
Air Tractor 402 PT-6-20 Sold
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Louisville, Ga
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09-03-2007, 07:59 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Calgary, Canada
Posts: 5,744
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All steam on my -10 panel save the Skymap IIIC moving map GPS. Looks kinda King Air ish.  |
09-03-2007, 03:14 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 107
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I was unsure of what to put in my 10 also, but if you ever want to sell your plane, the glass is the thing of the future and your plane would more marketable than steam. I have dual GRT and they are reasonably priced and very easy to use.
131Hrs and going strong.
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09-03-2007, 03:25 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Calgary, Canada
Posts: 5,744
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Probably by the time you sell your plane though, your current glass will be very obsolete unfortunately. Hard to say what old glass will be worth in 5-10 years from now and whether it will be supported still.
Steam will still be just as dated 10 years from now as it is now. |
09-03-2007, 08:12 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Eastern, PA
Posts: 828
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My panel also started with mostly the 6 pack steam gages with two Blue Mountain G3 replacing the AI and DG/HSI. I soon grew disillusioned with Blue Mountain quality and level of reliability so now I'm looking at AFS and GRT. One of the reasons you see so many glass panels is that for the price of a decent HSI you can get a decent glass panel. I you are really stuck on the 6 pack however you may want to look at the Aspen Avionics products. It would look something like this:
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09-05-2007, 03:14 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Yellowknife, Northwest Territories, Candaa
Posts: 7
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Awsome
Funny you should say that. I was just looking at that. the HSI model's arount 10K after the dust settles. A King HSI unit is going to cost you the same. I think this is what I am after exactly. Im not going to be building for a while  so by then maybe the price will drop a little. I really hope they keep up this product. It looks great and solves the HSI problem. |
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