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08-19-2007, 05:35 AM
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Offically, the Rotax 912 / 912S does not have a choke. It's called an "enricher circuit." Petty I know, but there is a difference. The enricher circuit only works when the throttle is at idle. You can't kill the engine when it is running with the enricher circuit pulled. It's like doing a mag check in that the RPM's barely drop when the enricher circuit is pulled when the engine is running. If you don't have the throttle at idle and try to "choke it" it won't work. The throttle must be at full idle. It is a Rotax safety feature.
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08-19-2007, 08:21 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Highland Village, TX
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Originally Posted by Phyrcooler
So - are those the "new" wings that are on the POC? ...snip
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Nope...just mod'd the originals, adding a little more aileron.
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08-19-2007, 12:34 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: St. Paul, MN.
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I'm about ready to major the T-hangar to see if a 12 and a 7A will both fit.
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08-22-2007, 03:25 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: La Porte texas
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dont mean to get off subject but just how much will this little thing cost ??
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08-22-2007, 06:29 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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The latest estimates from Oshkosh were that Vans is trying to have the kit priced so a completed, ready to fly airplane will fall somewhere around $40,000 to $45,000, but they have not yet released kit pricing information.
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08-22-2007, 07:36 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 34
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Similar to RV-12 - SportStar
Hi all,
Just thought I would post a pilot report on an airplane that is very similar to the RV-12, the Evektor SportStar. I recently flew this airplane for a total of 2 hours and I was very pleased.
First let me say that my first impression was; it's small, the big bubble canopy is not very attractive and boy the metal it is constructed of is sure thin, and it has a Rotax engine - 912s.
Yes it is small, this one weighs 735lbs, but the cockpit is roomy. The panel is basic but it has really everything a day VFR airplane will need. The top cowling comes off with about a dozen screws and this gives you great access to the engine. Start up was easy - no primer - just boost pump and choke and it starts right up! The throttle is nice - push pull or screw in and out - I like that. About the engine, it runs much faster than a Lycoming and I found that trottle adjustments were done more with feeling than with sound, pull the power back on a Lycoming and the change in power is audible, to me a power change didn't cause the engine to sound much different, 5000 to 4000 RPM, but you could feel it, not vibration just a sense of change in acceleration! Power, the little 912S has power and she produces torque, gotta use right rudder, and acceleration is much quicker than say a Cessna 150. Climb out at 60 Knots and I saw about 800 FPM near sea level 90 F at (probably over gross). Full power and all instruments were green and the little engine ran without any flaw, add / reduce power without any hesitation. The visibility - wow - the bubble canopy and forward seating really lets you see the scenery and other traffic - really beautiful. It was a 90+ day and the sun was bright but I'll take the clear canopy anytime, it has a shade that is easily positioned if shade is needed (RV-12 also has this shade). She performed very well with an 180hp Cessna 172 in the pattern, I felt like we were waiting for the Cessna in the pattern, SportsStar was out climbing her, my opinion. Landing, you gotta fly it, elevator is very effective and you need to use the rudder to keep her straight but she is really fun to fly. The RV-12 will be a very fine airplane with the Rotax engine - she won't fly 200 MPH or climb 2000 FPM but she will take you for a cheap hamburger and you will have that smile on your face when you get there!
I'm ready!
Jim, Sacramento
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08-23-2007, 06:55 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Dallas, TX (ADS)
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Originally Posted by ceuh1v
Hi all,
Just thought I would post a pilot report on an airplane that is very similar to the RV-12, the Evektor SportStar. I recently flew this airplane for a total of 2 hours and I was very pleased.
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Jim, nice PIREP on the Sportstar. My experiences in it was similar, and yes, be prepared to use a lot of rudder. Visibility is great.
The SportStar has the best fit and finish of any LSA I've seen.
TODR
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08-23-2007, 02:02 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Lago Vista, TX
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RV-12 Gas Tank
On Doug's latest photos I didn't see a gas filler cap anywhere -- Fuse or Wings. Did Van switch to solar power?
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08-23-2007, 02:17 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Highland Village, TX
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Still powered by dinosaurs <g>. The tank is located where the baggage area would be on the 6/7/9 (on the right side). The fill port is on the right side. Some pics:
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Last edited by DeltaRomeo : 08-23-2007 at 05:51 PM.
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08-23-2007, 05:21 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: redding,ca
Posts: 12
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rv-12
well, that explains the no sliding canopy option.
still don't like the fuel in the cabin area. third quarter of 2007 has 1 month to go and no new news from vans since june. perhaps it's time. at this point i'm leaning toward the rans s-19 although it's not a proven commodity. if you had to make an off airport forced landing, the s-19 canopy can be opened in flight( slid aft) which would help you egress the cabin if the plane flips over(which it will after the nose gear buckles). the forward opening canopy of the zodiac 601 and the rv 12 would require some serious type of tool to cut out the canopy and exit the plane. if it's burning( fuel tank in the cabin), you'll have a real problem .
food for thought.
ps the rans s-19 has a built in roll bar in case of nose over ( the rv -12 doesn't ). bernei
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