RV-10 all in cost (2020)

[Nero]

Trying to do some planning before diving in and want to make sure that my ballpark estimates are reasonable, and that I'm not missing some key part that will wreck the budget.

I couldn't find any recent topics, and the ones that outline the costs are 10 years old at this point.

Let me know if I'm severally over or under on any of these, and if I'm forgetting anything.

Please and thank you!

Part __________Cost__________ Notes
Tools ------------ 5,000 ----------- 3k to start, 2k for Misc
Empenage Kit ---- 4,325
Wing Kit --------- 11,450
Fuselage Kit ------ 17,125
Finishing Kit ------ 16,810
FWF Kit ---------- 7,000
Engine ----------- 48,600
Electrical --------- 5,000 ----------- Harness, etc
Avionics --------- 22,000 ---------- Advanced IFR Panel
Interior ---------- 7,000 ----------- Seats, panels
Paint -------------15,000
Prop --------------8,790 ------------ CS Prop for IO540 (260HP) (discount if purchased w/Lyco engine)
Extras? -----------5,000 ----------- Overhead?, Quadrant, etc
Shipping --------- 3,000
Tax (ID) ---------- 0 --------------- (not listed as a tax state on Van's web site)
Total ------------ 176,100


Edit 1: Added prop... not sure how i missed that... also bumped paint up to 15k.
Edit 2: Doing a little more research on the IFR avionics. Tentatively reduced cost from 37k down to 22k. Will update as I find out more. Also leaving shipping cost in for now, although driving to Oregon from Western Idaho would be cheaper, but would require a larger up front investment (pick up all kits at once).

[Kiwi flyer]

Extras can vary dependent on what goodies you want, I would allow more for paint, my plane is setting right at 167k unpainted, 20k ish for good paint job. Hope this helps.

[9GT]

I would add another $5K for the miscellaneous and I don't see a propeller on your list.

[Carl Froehlich]

Looks like you forgot the prop.

I kept a detailed cost spreadsheet for my RV-10 build and it was perhaps $10K less than your grand total (don’t have it in front of me and this was a 2012 build so prices are higher). Some thoughts:
- I just did a dual SkyView HDX panel with all the SkyView components, a GTN-650 and a PSeng audio panel. It was significantly less than your $37K. Perhaps you are including breakers, wiring and such and cost to have someone make it. You can save a lot of money doing your own panel, and at least one avionics shop gives a very nice discount if you bundle everything in one package.
- $10K for paint is low. I painted my first two RVs and will paint the new one next week. Paint material is not cheap - for a high end urethane base/clear it will run $3k-$4k. If you are having a paint shop do this I’d plan on at least $15K.
- Interior. There is a wide range of costs, do what you want. Keep in mind some of those Lexus interiors are heavy and don’t seem to stand up as well as the more basic offerings. I had DJ at Cleveland Tool do all my RVs and am very happy. The first one is now 17 years old and the seats still look like new. On overheads, I built one then never put it in. Took up too much room and I had little use for it.

Carl

[Nero]

Edits made to the original post to include prop (i had a feeling i was missing something important) and to bump paint up to $15k.

For Avionics, I got the cost from her: by clicking on the RV-10 tab. https://www.advancedflightsystems.co...panels.php#acm This may be too high as when i build the components separately on their website it comes in closer to 20k, so obviously i'm missing something.

I'm not 100% sold on an IFR panel yet either, but looking 5-6 years into the future, and given the plan's mission, i can see it being advantageous. I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts on that as well.

Edit: Looked at the Dynon site, and just a very quick build (using their "Deluxe IFR" panel" comes out to $21k, which is significantly less than Advanced. Any idea why there is such a huge price difference? I can go through part by part, but that seems like a lot. Certainly enough to make me do more research.

[RV10inOz]

Build it IFR....these things are meant for it. Do your instrument rating too, so add that in.

If you get any builder assist, be it airframe or electrical add something for that. But you are pretty much near the mark for hardware expenses now.

[BobTurner]

Vans lists states that require them to withhold sales/use tax. Just because ID isn’t on that list doesn’t mean you escape! I believe you will owe ID a 6% use tax on all out of state purchases, and a 6% sales tax on in-state purchases.
Not sure how close you are to Aurora OR but you can save some shipping costs if you fly to Vans, drive back with most of your kits in a U haul rent-a-truck.
For $37K your avionics better be gold plated. You can have a very functional ifr airplane for a lot less.

[BobTurner]

Avionics discussions always lead to ‘my choices were the best ones’. But you owe it to yourself to educate yourself as much as possible. Plan all avionics you want, will x work with Y, or do you have to buy more expensive item Z, etc. Garmin and Dynon are the big players, GRT smaller but very capable (disclosure-I’m a happy GRT owner). Advanced is now owned by Dynon (what that means for their future is your guess). MGL is a small company based in S. Africa. Check them all out.

[Allan Stern]

Bundling your engine and c/s prop through van's could save you money.

[RVFan671]

Not sure if you buried lights in the electrical or misc category but they can add up. Also consider if you’re going to install an oxygen system as one of your extras.

When I did the same approach you did for the budget I got about the same total but my avionics line item was almost double but my paint was almost nothing. Looking forward to when that time comes and hopefully they’ll offset. I’m also hoping to find a used engine/prop to try and bring down the overall investment.