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Old 08-29-2020, 12:20 PM
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I think you are over-thinking this. I never had bugs in mine, and I often think about the effot of inserting/removing the rings every time I tie down. It doesnot sound like much effort, but you have to retrieve them from wherever you keep them, locate the hole, srew them in without touching the paint, and then reverse the process. It is tougher to tie down one side while holding onto the ring from the other side than you think. Adding the need to remove a plug - especially if it requires a tool, that does not seem like an improved process.
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Old 08-29-2020, 03:13 PM
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Default I did have a bug!

I tried to screw the tie down rings prior to a trip, and found that it was full of sand and bug spit. I spent a half hour cleaning it out.... When I got back I bought two stainless bolts and cut them so they'd fit flush. Then I cut a slot for a flat screwdriver in the end. They stay there until I need the rings.
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Old 08-29-2020, 04:20 PM
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I would say a good goal is to fly enough that you simply get tired of taking the rings in and out every time you park out on the ramp at some cool new place

I'm happy to say that's where I wound up pretty quickly after I finished my plane. And really, they can't have that much drag.
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Old 08-29-2020, 05:53 PM
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Just need more aerodynamic rings.....
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Old 08-29-2020, 06:32 PM
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Default Nylon Pan Head

I bought a bag of black nylon pan heads from McMaster and turned the inside of the heads down on the lathe to get the lowest profile head possible. I plan on leaving them in until I need to tie down. Interesting note, since they are molded, the parting line flash makes a nice locking feature.
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Old 08-29-2020, 11:49 PM
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I think whistles should be installed so when you diveyou'll sound like a stuka dive bomber
I would totally do this.

I leave mine out nearly all the time, since the plane is hangared at home and whenever possible when out of town, if the FBO has hangar space. For lunch runs or such (not doing those during COVID, though...just don't want to take the chance), if it's windy enough to worry about tying it down for an hour or so, it's probably too windy to fly anyway, but if necessary, I can screw them in in just a couple of minutes.

But somebody should definitely design and 3D print some soft of "screamer" that can be screwed in for fun. Please.
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Old 08-30-2020, 01:54 AM
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Default What a out gap?

So on my 9, there is a gap between the skin and the tie down piece. How did you guys deal with this gap? If a tie down is screwed in too tight, i think it could tweak the skin.
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Old 08-30-2020, 12:36 PM
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How much of performance hit is caused by leaving the tie down rings installed?
Any empirical data?

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Old 08-30-2020, 01:41 PM
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So on my 9, there is a gap between the skin and the tie down piece. How did you guys deal with this gap? If a tie down is screwed in too tight, i think it could tweak the skin.
Yeah, don't do that. I just cut a put a rubber grommet on the tiedown ring so it "snugs up" but doesn't actually flex the skin, and I'm just careful not to do that when I screw them in. IOW, watch what you're doing. Easy peasy.

I think that's per plans on all models, AFAIK, to keep the tiedown bracket from chafing the skin on the inside.
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Old 08-30-2020, 06:15 PM
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Better yet, make a whistle that sounds like a P51 Merlin! I’ll take two and pay way more that their worth!
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