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08-11-2020, 03:33 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
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Fuel injector
On the first flight of my recently acquired IO-360, RV-8, I noticed cyl#4 CHT and EGT readings were 20% higher than the other cylinders. I removed all the injector nozzle's to clean them and found the #4 cyl injector nozzle was missing the little flow restrictor insert?? Is the insert available as a separate part?? I was unable to find a source for this part, had to order a complete injector assy, ACS $113.
Dick
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08-11-2020, 04:51 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: 20km outside of Zurich, Switzerland
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Go to Airflow Performance ...
Hi
Look for Airflow Performance, they have them in the online shop.
Also it is important that you make that "GAMI" spread test ... just because the EGT of one cylinder is high is not unusual, it is not easy to drill them at the absolute same position, some of the exhaust tube have the bend close to the flange.
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08-11-2020, 07:58 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Schaumburg, IL
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That seems a bit odd. I would expect a newer style injector without the restrictor installed to flow WAY more fuel than normal. This should have resulted in much lower EGTs and CHTs. Given that that tapered seat is a part of the restrictor, I would also expect it to leak externally if the restrictor was missing. Any possibility that #4 was an old style injector that didn't have a separate restrictor assembly? Original injectors were one piece units.
Larry
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Last edited by lr172 : 08-11-2020 at 10:01 AM.
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08-11-2020, 09:38 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Dogwood Airpark (VA42)
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Dick - send a photo. As you describe the problem the indications are all wrong.
Recommend full resolution before next flight.
Carl
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08-11-2020, 01:06 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl Froehlich
Dick - send a photo. As you describe the problem the indications are all wrong.
Recommend full resolution before next flight.
/Users/richardjason/Desktop/IMG_0152.jpeg
Carl
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Carl,
AS seen in the photo, all the injectors are the same except #4 cyl had no insert?
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08-11-2020, 01:28 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Winter Haven
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Just got off the phone with Precission Airmotive, great guys. I described my problem, and was told that at low power settings, the cylinder would run lean as indications showed, how at high power settings it would have run much richer.
I did not run high power settings on that flight so I can't confirm the fact.
In any event, I ordered the replacement restrictor from them, good to go.
Appreciate the help and advice.
Dick
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08-11-2020, 01:32 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
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Correction, Airflow Performance, not Precission Airmotive, senior moment, sorry about that.
Dick
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08-11-2020, 02:56 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
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Dick,
Shoot fire - gone!!
I have eight of these standard size (0.028”)sitting on the self left over from balancing two engines - let me know if you need another one.
Carl
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08-11-2020, 07:12 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Mojave
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Quote:
Originally Posted by N661DJ
I did not run high power settings on that flight so I can't confirm the fact...
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Just wondering what power setting you used for takeoff?
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08-11-2020, 11:37 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
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I use WOT for take off, I did not monitor the engine temps until reaching cruse altitude, 2500' at that point I reduced the power to 20" and 2100rpm.
After a few minutes, getting accustomed to the airplane, I noticed the engine temps. #4 cyl was approx. 30 degrees hotter, both EGT and CHT.
Dick
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