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Old 07-09-2020, 04:46 PM
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Frank

I just realized you?re in Sausalito. I have my flight suit (38R) and Nomex high tops (9.5) at my hangar at KSQL. If those would be any help, let me know and I can figure out how to get them to you.

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Old 07-09-2020, 07:12 PM
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I found my new nomex flightsuit at Army/Navy surplus store.
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Old 07-09-2020, 09:16 PM
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Halon extinguisher
I am not saying don't take an extinguisher, but I would be very careful discharging any extinguisher (except for water maybe) in an enclosed space the size of an RV interior. Don't just pull the pin and empty the thing, you might end up with no breathable air. Short squirts, just enough to beat down any active flame.
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Old 07-09-2020, 09:48 PM
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Find a auto race driver retiring a suit. They have to be replaced occasionally and usually perfectly fine. I still have mine but it's not legal for driving. Three layer Nomex. Hot as the dickens with a full fire under garment, balaclava, gloves, socks, shoes, full face helmet and Hans.
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Old 07-09-2020, 10:45 PM
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Find a auto race driver retiring a suit......Hot as the dickens with a full fire under garment, balaclava, gloves, socks, shoes, full face helmet and Hans.
Used suit from a guy who was hot as the dickens? Eeeeeeewwwww
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Old 07-10-2020, 01:19 PM
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FTE here. If you go with nomex, make sure anything you wear underneath is cotton or something like Carbon X. I'll probably be wearing my suit for my first few flights. I will for sure be wearing my nomex/leather gloves and leather boots (or at least have the gloves handy).

When poly melts into your skin, the way they get it out is by scraping your skin and the poly off. It's a bad, bad day.
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Old 07-11-2020, 05:20 PM
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I still have the picture permanently seared into my brain of a F-80(?) driver who made a safety film for USAF. He was in a bad fire and sustained just survivable burns all over. The ONLY part of his body that was not recoverable were his hands that were mangled by the leather shrinking over them. Find Nomex flying gloves instead!
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Old 07-11-2020, 07:38 PM
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Next question, so at what flight do you stop wearing the nomex flight suit? Flight number 2? Flight 5? After 40 hours?
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Old 07-11-2020, 07:48 PM
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Next question, so at what flight do you stop wearing the nomex flight suit? Flight number 2? Flight 5? After 40 hours?
Good question - and it goes to why you're wearing special clothing in the first place. In my personal risk management scheme, I wear fire clothing as long as I am concerned about an increased risk of fire. In a flight test aircraft, that usually means you are worried about leaks or bad connections with fuel or oil lines. After each of the first couple of flights, the cowling should come of to inspect for any leaks, drips, or grime that indicates such leaks have occurred.

If, after a few flights of these inspections, you're happy that the further risk of leaks is small, then its probably safe to do away with the special clothing/precautions.
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Old 07-27-2020, 12:02 PM
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I still have the picture permanently seared into my brain of a F-80(?) driver who made a safety film for USAF. He was in a bad fire and sustained just survivable burns all over. The ONLY part of his body that was not recoverable were his hands that were mangled by the leather shrinking over them. Find Nomex flying gloves instead!
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