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05-07-2020, 02:37 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Mount Vernon, WA
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Wow that is a really clean setup.
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05-07-2020, 02:54 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Mount Vernon, WA
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Originally Posted by SMRacer
I have used 15 gallon Flo Fast containers and hand pump for racing and turf equipment. Now I use it for aircraft refueling. Works well on a low wing aircraft. The pump has a grounding cable that can be attached to the aircraft and then I use a 20 foot coiled grounding cable to ground the aircraft..
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I believe I use the same Flo-Fast 7.5's and their best hand pump. I fill up the two containers at Farmers supply us using 90 octane, unleaded no alcohol for my Rotax ULS and hand load and unload them into my SUV. I unload them and hand pump the fuel into the RV-12 which is located passenger side behind the rear window just behind the wing. My question is where should I ground the container?
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05-07-2020, 05:21 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Hinckley, Ohio
Posts: 2,056
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Originally Posted by MVPILOT
I believe I use the same Flo-Fast 7.5's and their best hand pump. I fill up the two containers at Farmers supply us using 90 octane, unleaded no alcohol for my Rotax ULS and hand load and unload them into my SUV. I unload them and hand pump the fuel into the RV-12 which is located passenger side behind the rear window just behind the wing. My question is where should I ground the container?
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The FLO-FAST pump has a ground wire attached to the pump. I attach it to the two-wheel cart and then a wire from the cart gets attached to the tail tie down ring.
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Jim Stricker
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PPL/ASEL 1970 - Sport Pilot since 2007
80 hrs Flying Aeronca Chief 11AC N86203
1130 hrs Flying 46 Piper J-3 Cub N6841H
Bought Flying RV-12 #120058 Oct 2015 with 48TT - Hobbs now 618 
LSRM-A Certificate 2016 for RV-12 N633CM
Special Thanks... EJ Trucks - USN Crew Chief A-4 Skyhawk
MJ Stricker (Father & CFI) - USAAF 1st Lt. Captain B-17H
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05-07-2020, 05:22 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Hinckley, Ohio
Posts: 2,056
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Strap is made from Home Depot mild steel strip.
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Jim Stricker
EAA #499867
PPL/ASEL 1970 - Sport Pilot since 2007
80 hrs Flying Aeronca Chief 11AC N86203
1130 hrs Flying 46 Piper J-3 Cub N6841H
Bought Flying RV-12 #120058 Oct 2015 with 48TT - Hobbs now 618 
LSRM-A Certificate 2016 for RV-12 N633CM
Special Thanks... EJ Trucks - USN Crew Chief A-4 Skyhawk
MJ Stricker (Father & CFI) - USAAF 1st Lt. Captain B-17H
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05-07-2020, 05:43 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Hinckley, Ohio
Posts: 2,056
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Update 5-7-20
I finally got to try the entire system now that the Pro Seal has cured on the boat deck filler tank flange. Absolutely the nuts? I?m through lifting 5-gallon gas cans to shoulder height to pour into the RV-12. The FLO-FAST pump is easy to turn and outputs about one gallon for 10 turns. Today I rec?d the digital rev counter and I will make that part of the system and report out when complete.
I changed the 5-gallon pouring snout ? it is now a straight piece of ?? ID FLO-FAST tubing. This makes it easier to pour into the boat deck filler flange. I also changed the way the 5-gallon jug vents to allow a more vertical (fast) pour. This is still a work in progress but looks very promising. I?ll post photos when complete.
Suffice to say, I am very happy with the FLO-FAST. This should help me fly another 10+ years at which point I will be in my late 70?s? God willing.
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Jim Stricker
EAA #499867
PPL/ASEL 1970 - Sport Pilot since 2007
80 hrs Flying Aeronca Chief 11AC N86203
1130 hrs Flying 46 Piper J-3 Cub N6841H
Bought Flying RV-12 #120058 Oct 2015 with 48TT - Hobbs now 618 
LSRM-A Certificate 2016 for RV-12 N633CM
Special Thanks... EJ Trucks - USN Crew Chief A-4 Skyhawk
MJ Stricker (Father & CFI) - USAAF 1st Lt. Captain B-17H
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05-10-2020, 09:34 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Mount Vernon, WA
Posts: 86
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Piper J3
The FLO-FAST pump has a ground wire attached to the pump. I attach it to the two-wheel cart and then a wire from the cart gets attached to the tail tie down ring.
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Thank you.
I don't use a cart but if I located a grounding wire from the pump to the tie down and a ground cable from the tie down to a ground in the hangar would that serve as well?
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05-10-2020, 10:26 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Utah
Posts: 96
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Piper J3
Fast forward… this year, I’m realizing that at age 67, it might not be in my best interest to keep lifting heavy fuel cans to shoulder height.
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And now.... the simpler solution.
Sorry, couldn't resist. 
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Last edited by jrtens : 05-10-2020 at 11:12 AM.
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05-10-2020, 06:34 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 1,024
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I have the 15 gallon version of the Flo-Fast with pump.
Instead of pouring the gas into the 15 gal container from the 5 gal ones, I simply set the 5 gal jugs up on a shelf or chair and use the pump, turning the handle backwards, to pump the gas into the 15 gal jug.
Instead of getting a cart, I just set the big jug on a small furniture mover from HF and it rolls around just fine.
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05-10-2020, 10:23 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Hinckley, Ohio
Posts: 2,056
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I never considered running FLO-FAST pump in reverse to transfer from 5 gallon to 15 gallon. Good suggestion - and simple too...
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Jim Stricker
EAA #499867
PPL/ASEL 1970 - Sport Pilot since 2007
80 hrs Flying Aeronca Chief 11AC N86203
1130 hrs Flying 46 Piper J-3 Cub N6841H
Bought Flying RV-12 #120058 Oct 2015 with 48TT - Hobbs now 618 
LSRM-A Certificate 2016 for RV-12 N633CM
Special Thanks... EJ Trucks - USN Crew Chief A-4 Skyhawk
MJ Stricker (Father & CFI) - USAAF 1st Lt. Captain B-17H
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05-11-2020, 09:07 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Granada Hills
Posts: 810
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Being tall at 6'5 makes for removal of a lot of the seating and back rest cushions in an RV-12 necessary and replaced with lawn chair furniture pads, so my head has clearance for the canopy to close.
On the plus side, I ground my arm against the skin of the plane while holding the 6 gallon plastic jerry cans while filling up the tank. I do need a quiet stretch of time from other plane noise at the airport to hear the gas starting to come up the spout, however.
To each his own, for now, the exercise is good, and filling up with premium at Costco is easy enough. I have 18 gallons of capacity, the Moller gauge on top of the planes gas tank is very good at letting me know how much I need to buy.
The strange part is when people see me pull up at a gas pump in an All Electric VW e-Golf and wonder what I'm going to fill up, until I lift the hatch back and grab the jerry cans.
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