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04-16-2020, 02:37 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Humboldt
Posts: 3
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Places to fly
Look at this web page, it has amazing info about airports, like food, hotels history.Fun places to fly. Just call ahead because of these trying times:
https://www.funplacestofly.com/default.asp
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Humboldt, SK Canada
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04-17-2020, 05:59 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: KORL - Orlando, FL
Posts: 80
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One of the best tools for airplane camping is a compression sack. We use the Alps brand but any good rated and inexpensive brand will do. All of our softgoods (mummy sacks, clothes, pillows, etc) go in them and they compress the stuff probably 3 to 1. Another really nice thing to have is a Therm-a-Rest NeoAir Mini Pump to inflate your mist have air matteress. The pump is cheap, works well, and saves you from hyper ventilating when you are setting up camp. My preferred air mattress is the Klymit Static V Luxe Sleeping Pad (lifetime warranty if you need it). Its a bit larger than the rest and the extra ounce or two wont matter. Regarding the tent I agree that atleast a rating for atleast one additional person beyond the number sleeping in it is required. A rain fly that covers the entire tent is necessary as otherwise the inside of the tent will be wet with dew in the morning. Most cheap tents have a partial rainfly. The good tents have intricate ventilation to facilitate a rainfly that covers the entire tent. This is one reason they are $$$ but well worth the money. Anything REI sells will work well. If baggage area is at a premium you could also get a 65 liter hiking backpack and seat belt it in on the right side. I did that flying aid to the Bahamas in the RV-10 as I was leery about anything "loose" near the right stick. If there are no picnic benches at your campsite it's nice to have a folding chair. Helinox CHAIR ONE X-LARGE is my preference. They make a smaller one that we have for our kids. The Big Agnes Soul Kitchen Camp Table (folding table) is the least used item we have but nice when there is no other table to use already at the campsite. Alot of places have picnic tables. We have Big Agnes mtnGLO Tent Camp Lights that we string on the inside ceiling of the tent to light up at night. Works really well. The last item no one has mentioned is a good headlamp. So much easier to use your hands when the light is strapped to your head. We use a green propane bottle stove from a garage sale to cook and try to bring things that are already dry (pasta, pancake mix, etc) as they are inexpensive and dont need fancy things like ice to stay safe and water is available everywhere we go to hydrate them. Arcadia airport (Florida) has a really nice paved runway that you taxi from to the woods where you can push your plane under an oak tree. Porcelain toilets and hot water showers. Fire ring with pre split wood. First class operation if you want to test out your gear. They will even setup a tent for you if you dont have one. Check out their website. https://foaa.us/
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RV-10 bought not built (Thanks Carl!) www.N7ZK.com
"How's it feel to be the fastest plane in the sky? You were spanking two Cirrus planes, a Mooney, and another plane. I took screen shots" - Quote from the best wife in the world.
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04-17-2020, 08:31 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Indiana
Posts: 8
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What about a small wood stove??
IF you are camping in a place allowing wood fires, you can use sticks in a very small metal wood stove. For a DIY version, search for Nimblewill Nomad Little Dandy Stove. Or buy the premade cheap chinese version called Lixada Compact Folding Wood Stove.
These stoves are very small. The top opening is like 5" x 5" or so, just right for a camping cook kit. You don't use logs, just sticks you pick up and break with your hands. They weigh a couple pounds or less.
Be extremely careful about debris around the fire. You don't want to walk out. You might be charged by the authorities for leaving a charred airplane in the bush.....
Lance
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04-17-2020, 08:47 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SC
Posts: 12,887
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Warrior's Lance
IF you are camping in a place allowing wood fires, you can use sticks in a very small metal wood stove. For a DIY version, search for Nimblewill Nomad Little Dandy Stove. Or buy the premade cheap chinese version called Lixada Compact Folding Wood Stove.
These stoves are very small. The top opening is like 5" x 5" or so, just right for a camping cook kit. You don't use logs, just sticks you pick up and break with your hands. They weigh a couple pounds or less.
Be extremely careful about debris around the fire. You don't want to walk out. You might be charged by the authorities for leaving a charred airplane in the bush.....
Lance
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Out west and even in the east when it is really dry don't allow fires. Also, there is no guarantee you will find fuel at an airport.
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04-18-2020, 12:56 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Indiana
Posts: 8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by N941WR
Out west and even in the east when it is really dry don't allow fires. Also, there is no guarantee you will find fuel at an airport.
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Both of your points are valid in certain situations.
My first phrase in my reply addressed that there maybe a problem with fires, and finished with a half joke about not starting a wildfire and burning up the airplane! There was much discussion in this thread about the hazards of propane canisters in an airplane. These 2 little wood burners do not need propane. They use a small bundle of small sticks to allow a fire to boil water in a few minutes for coffee or make a dehydrated meal, ie typical modern camping fare. The OP said ID, WA, and OR as desired destinations. I was thinking also by his Covid-19 concerns that he was wanting to go the remote USFS airports out there. Those airports aren't like the fence secured business oriented airports near cities, but are already rural, in wooded areas and camping oriented places, ie the fuel should be nearby and freely available on public property. I suspect they have camping areas with fire rings? I was simply pointing that there is an alternative to the common propane stoves. Due diligence dictates that the pilot know if he can light a fire, and to be careful with it.
Lance
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04-18-2020, 02:55 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 4,435
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Lance is right. The stoves are small and effective. Often dirty after using, though, and take more effort than a fueled stove. An alternative, but practice with them before you head out (good advice for all your gear).
A good comparison of the different types of stove can be found here.
I've used the pop can alcohol stoves they mention, and they aren't throttleable and basically burn till they're out of fuel, at least in my experience. They will boil a pint of water but that's about all, and that not fast. I wouldn't take one for airplane camping any more than I would a wood stove.
Dave
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04-24-2020, 05:06 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Nikiski, AK
Posts: 413
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Sterno Stove
I use a Sterno Stove. Part of my survival gear. Three cans of fuel in the plastic wrap are easy to store, use zipper-loc bags just in case.
Fuel is small, light weight, stove folds flat. Carry one in my vehicle, on long drives been known to stop at picnic sites and cook lunch/dinner. The small easy to store sized cans of fuel outlast any white gas or LP fuels of the same weight and size containers.
No spill, fuel lasts a long time. No pump or valves/seals to go bad. Just open the lid on the fuel and light with a match. Cheap system that works. Fuel works as fire starter if needed on a bigger fire, just take a small stick get it wet; no problem getting a fire to go.
Does take time to boil water though.
Mike
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N999SN 1998 Syd Nelson RV-6 (purchased 2017)
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Last edited by mbauer : 04-24-2020 at 05:33 AM.
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04-26-2020, 09:09 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Spring
Posts: 20
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Thanks a million for all the great suggestions and info. To the guys that created items lists, those are like my packing bibles now. I reference them while shopping on Amazon. I have to say, the gear that I?ve bought so far has not been cheap. Hopefully, however, this won?t be the only time I use them.
I went with the Big Agnes Copper Spur HV UL3 (2020) tent. Big volume, but light. Only a little over 3lbs. Packs down to 6? x 19?. I decided to go with a 3 person tent, even though I?m solo, because I?m hoping in the future maybe I won?t be solo. I?m going with the one size up philosophy.
As far as a stove, I?m still debating. I don?t have any trouble eating cold food. Like bagels, peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, etc. I even eat instant oatmeal cold, something I started doing back in high school. But then I started thinking about how nice it would be to have some hot chocolate in the evening after a long hike. Maybe some boil in bag rice or noodles. So I may get a stove of some sort. Not sure.
Right now, 1st stop is going to be 1L7, as has been suggested. Looks like a great place, close to capital reef, with a nice campground, and nice amenities. Certainly won?t be roughing it there. I?m still deciding on the follow up Destination. I have a friend that gave me some suggestions in WA. (21W & 6S9.) My only concern is the fact that the weather in WA can stay so crummy for so long, I may not get back out for a while. See, the way I look at it, I would only go in if the weather was nice. But, the weather may get bad while I?m there, and then I?m stuck for God knows how long. Anyone have any insights on the weather in Washington state in May?
I?m also keeping Johnson Creek (3U2), and a few other airports in Idaho, as an option. However, I was told by the Aeronautics Division up there, that the grass strips can still be messy in May, and to call back in a couple weeks.
Otherwise, are there any other good camping airports in the southwest that will have less weather concerns than the north? Of course with some hiking nearby.
Thanks everyone! You guys have helped more than you?ll know.
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04-26-2020, 01:38 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Indepenence, Oregon
Posts: 342
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When we were backpacking in the Sierra Nevada Mountains a whole bunch of years ago, we discovered the answer to rain, cold, wind and bad food. You only need about an ounce a night.
Yukon Jack
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Bruce Patton
Rans S-20 Raven 796S flying since 2019 (slowly)
RV-6A 596S flying since '99 (Sold)
HP-18 5596S flying since '89
RV-10 996S flying since 2014, quick build wing and slow build fues., - dual Skyviews with complete system, two radio and not much else. Interior completely finished with Zolatone. CF plenum. 1624 lbs, FLYING after a 21.5 month build.
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04-26-2020, 02:20 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: SLC, UT (KBTF)
Posts: 240
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Smiley Creek Airstrip, Idaho
This Idaho Division of Aeronautics' well-maintained airstrip may dry out early because it's slope encourages drainage. I recommend it for its amenities and because the approach and departure is not as challenging as some other Idaho backcountry strips.
http://https://idahoaviation.com/ida...tail.php?id=70
Smiley Creek Airstrip FAA Code: U87 Elevation: 7206
Cheers, David
RV-6A KBTF
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