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04-12-2020, 08:38 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Vaca Moo Airport - TA37 in East TEXAS
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Originally Posted by F1Boss
...Never had a car/mower/tractor/truck/farm gas/diesel tank or airplane engine filter come loose since I have done oil changes (60+ years) - why would an aircraft use be any different? ...
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That's what I told the IA who did my condition inspection this year. Took me 15 minutes to add a hose clamp to the filter and safety wire it so he would be happy and sign it off. 
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04-12-2020, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by F1Boss
Never had a car/mower/tractor/truck/farm gas/diesel tank or airplane engine filter come loose since I have done oil changes (60+ years) - why would an aircraft use be any different?
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FWIW six months ago my wife took her new car (2019 Toyota Rav4) to the dealer for it's 1st oil change. 200miles later the filter came loose and dumped all the oil. She was on the interstate when it happened so by the time she shut the engine off the damage was done. Now our new car has an even newer engine in it.
Morale of the story; "Never say never," especially in an airplane.

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04-12-2020, 09:36 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Sacramento, CA
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Originally Posted by GalinHdz
FWIW six months ago my wife took her new car (2019 Toyota Rav4) to the dealer for it's 1st oil change. 200miles later the filter came loose and dumped all the oil. She was on the interstate when it happened so by the time she shut the engine off the damage was done. Now our new car has an even newer engine in it.
Morale of the story; "Never say never," especially in an airplane.

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Perhaps the difference is that the F1Boss does the oil change himself, hence making sure things are done correctly. It is amazing how many times I have heard of stories like your wife's experience. A good friend of mine's daughter had a similar experience with the oil change at one of the national chain oil change shops. They also got a newer engine.
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04-12-2020, 09:37 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GalinHdz
FWIW six months ago my wife took her new car (2019 Toyota Rav4) to the dealer for it's 1st oil change. 200miles later the filter came loose and dumped all the oil. She was on the interstate when it happened so by the time she shut the engine off the damage was done. Now our new car has an even newer engine in it.
Morale of the story; "Never say never," especially in an airplane.

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Morale #2: Never take your airplane to an auto dealership for an oil change!
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USAF Vet, High School E-LSA Project Mentor.
RV-6 Flying since 1993 (sold)
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04-12-2020, 09:47 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Vaca Moo Airport - TA37 in East TEXAS
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GalinHdz
FWIW six months ago my wife took her new car (2019 Toyota Rav4) to the dealer for it's 1st oil change. 200miles later the filter came loose and dumped all the oil. She was on the interstate when it happened so by the time she shut the engine off the damage was done. Now our new car has an even newer engine in it.
Morale of the story; "Never say never," especially in an airplane.

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You should have bought a Ford ! 
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04-12-2020, 09:50 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Utah
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Interestingly Rotax uses the 3/4 turn method and there is no safety wire. I make a point to check the mark before each flight. 
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04-12-2020, 09:55 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Sacramento, CA
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Originally Posted by Pilot135pd
You should have bought a Ford ! 
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I once did that and the auto shop store became my second home for the amount of time I spent there.
Since, I have owned three Toyotas and all +/-200K miles and never visited the repair shop, only oil/brake/tire and windshield wipers.
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04-12-2020, 09:59 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2019
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Originally Posted by Bavafa
I once did that and the auto shop store became my second home for the amount of time I spent there.
Since, I have owned three Toyotas and all +/-200K miles and never visited the repair shop, only oil/brake/tire and windshield wipers.
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It was a joke for my old boss. I currently own a F150 and a ‘66 Ford and also a Toyota Tundra.
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04-12-2020, 10:01 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mel
Morale #2: Never take your airplane to an auto dealership for an oil change!
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Or to any of those quick change places ! Took my Tundra and a month later had to rebuild the transmission.
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RV-8 N52VM: OnSpeed Gen2 AOA-3D, Dynon D-180, Autopilot, Titan 0-360A1A, Hartzell C/S, INS-429 IFR & GPS496, WingX & Stratux for backup & ADS-B IN. Enjoying life while building an airpark with FREE campsite for pilots www.facebook.com/VacaMooAirport/
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04-12-2020, 10:13 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
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Originally Posted by Pilot135pd
Or to any of those quick change places ! Took my Tundra and a month later had to rebuild the transmission.
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The only time I used one of the "quick change" places was when I had a Ford Escort.
The filter was exactly above the exhaust. You could not possibly change it without burning yourself. My procedure was to have the oil changed, let the car sit overnight in the garage and then, when it had cooled down, loosen and reseat the filter.
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EAA Flight Advisor/Tech Counselor, Friend of the RV-1
Recipient of Tony Bingelis Award and Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award
USAF Vet, High School E-LSA Project Mentor.
RV-6 Flying since 1993 (sold)
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