Airventure 2020

[mike newall]

As things seem to be spiralling downwards ever quicker, how long do we think before AirVenture pulls the plug ?

European airlines are looking at shutdowns through Summer now. Lufthansa just announced grounding until September, New York Oceanic airspace closed today !

My buddy is a Controller at Shanwick - normal daily traffic around 1200 airplanes...... Today - 258 !

[rleffler]

Originally Posted by mike newall

As things seem to be spiralling downwards ever quicker, how long do we think before AirVenture pulls the plug ?

European airlines are looking at shutdowns through Summer now. Lufthansa just announced grounding until September, New York Oceanic airspace closed today !

My buddy is a Controller at Shanwick - normal daily traffic around 1200 airplanes...... Today - 258 !

Everyone can speculate, but in all reality it?s too early. I suspect that decision won?t be made until the May/June timeframe when better data is available.

[bruceh]

Well, you can get Oshkosh 2020 T-shirts from EAA. I got an ad in email for these and thought they might become collectors items if the show doesn't happen.

[bkc3921]

Let me see.....Without giants like Lufthansa, Airbus, or Boeing that could mean the Experimental Aircraft Association might just go back to concentrating on Experimental and GA aircraft...? A smaller, more focused group of Saturday morning airport guys without global aspirations, who just love planes, building, and hanging with their buds.......? ............................Well, wouldn't THAT be something.........!

[Kyle Boatright]

Originally Posted by bkc3921

Let me see.....Without giants like Lufthansa, Airbus, or Boeing that could mean the Experimental Aircraft Association might just go back to concentrating on Experimental and GA aircraft...? A smaller, more focused group of Saturday morning airport guys without global aspirations, who just love planes, building, and hanging with their buds.......? ............................Well, wouldn't THAT be something.........!

I'd love it, but "No bucks, no Buck Rogers." Honestly, the EAA has a huge overhead burden these days. It can't survive without the big contributions from the major players. That's the challenge of growth. At some point, the growth owns you, instead of you owning the growth.

My guess is that AirVenture 2020 isn't gonna happen. I hope I'm wrong.

[Auburntsts]

Originally Posted by Kyle Boatright

I'd love it, but "No bucks, no Buck Rogers." Honestly, the EAA has a huge overhead burden these days. It can't survive without the big contributions from the major players. That's the challenge of growth. At some point, the growth owns you, instead of you owning the growth.

My guess is that AirVenture 2020 isn't gonna happen. I hope I'm wrong.

Agree 100%.

[jrs14855]

The question should be: can EAA survive if Oshkosh 20 is canceled?

[Kyle Boatright]

Originally Posted by jrs14855

The question should be: can EAA survive if Oshkosh 20 is canceled?

I'm sure it can. The last time I went through the annual report, my takeaway was that Airventure was profitable, but not hugely profitable. Of course, you can make it look however you want depending on how you allocate overhead expenses. Still, I don't think the net impact will be overwhelming.

[Auburntsts]

Originally Posted by jrs14855

The question should be: can EAA survive if Oshkosh 20 is canceled?

After reading the EAA annual report, my short answer is yes.

[rdrcrmatt]

Summerfest, a huge music festival in July in Milwaukee just postponed till fall.