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Old 03-22-2020, 09:54 AM
vxclimber180 vxclimber180 is offline
 
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Default Aerobatic training in your RV

For those interested in unusual attitude recovery and/or aerobatic training in your RV, I would suggest you contact Deirdre Gurry, based at WDG, Woodring Airport in Enid, OK. I had a great experience yesterday with her training me in my RV-6. I learned a lot and I understand my airplane much better. She owns an RV-6 and is a very capable aerobatics instructor. Please don't try to train yourself to do aerobatics.

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Old 03-22-2020, 10:34 AM
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Be VERY careful doing 2-up aerobatics in RV-6. Aerobatic gross weight is 1375 lbs.
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Old 03-22-2020, 11:22 AM
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Default G Limits over aerobatic gross weight

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Be VERY careful doing 2-up aerobatics in RV-6. Aerobatic gross weight is 1375 lbs.
Mel,
We are all familiar with "gross weight" and G limits BELOW "aerobatic gross weight". Are there any published G limits for weights between aerobatic gross weight and gross weight?
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Old 03-22-2020, 11:45 AM
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I am curious what your weight is with an instructor and two parachutes.
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Old 03-22-2020, 12:10 PM
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Airplane empty weight 1007, 168 pilot, 130 instructor = 1305, 10 gal fuel and still some to spare.
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Old 03-22-2020, 02:42 PM
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Parachutes??
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Old 03-22-2020, 03:45 PM
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Parachutes??
Parachutes are required per the FARs when doing aerobatics with more than the required crew on-board. There is an exemption for cfi?s teaching ?...any maneuver required for any rating...? but that would not include anything inverted.
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Old 03-22-2020, 05:51 PM
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I don't want an argument about if you should or shouldn't wear a parachute, in my opinion it is not a requirement in this training condition. But for me personally I would wear one if I thought I could actually get out of the airplane in case of structural failure. I have the tilt up canopy with the hinge release, but I do not think I could get out of the RV-6 in a situation were the airplane was uncontrollable. So I elected to not wear a chute. To each his own.
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Old 03-22-2020, 08:05 PM
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In the recent Midget Mustang fatal the departing canopy apparently took off half the horizontal and all of the vertical tail. Where the canopy goes depends on speed and attitude. I lost a canopy on the Sukhoi SU29 at around cruise speed. The canopy did not touch any part of the ,airplane when it departed. I was in the front and was not injured. The pilot in the back was hit in the face by the canopy handle. Another SU 29 lost the canopy with the pilot flying solo. He was not injured. The canopy landed intact and was reinstalled on the airplane.
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Old 03-22-2020, 08:11 PM
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All LEGITIMATE aerobatic schools in the US require parachutes for all
Aerobatic training. You may find a benovelent Fed that accepts a passenger as a required crew member but it is more likely if you are caught you will incur anything from a formal reprimand to a suspension.
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