Currency question - night and tailwheel

[skylor]

Originally Posted by Caveman

(ii) The required takeoffs and landings were performed in an aircraft of the same category, class, and type (if a type rating is required), and, if the aircraft to be flown is an airplane with a tailwheel, the takeoffs and landings must have been made to a full stop in an airplane with a tailwheel.

That?s the general currency requirement, not the night time requirement.

Skylor

[rocketman1988]

That is FAR 61.57 (a)(ii), and it is for general landing currency.

The night currency is FAR 61.57 (b)(ii), and only specifies Category, Class, and Type (if required).

[Caveman]

Geez, that's what happens when I can't sleep and post after midnight. I stand corrected.

[gmcjetpilot]

Pretty simple is it same category = airplane? Yes. All count towards currency. Tail wheel is not a separate category or class. Airplane single engine land is all the same.... even if it has tail wheel or retract gear and turbo charger and pressurization. Are they really the same? No but Regs don't delineate.

Category = airplane, rotorwing, glider
Class = single engine, multi engine, land/sea
"Type" is another animal for large aircraft so forget that.

Is it wise to fly a trike for 10 years and go fly a tail-wheel plane at night for the first time in 10 years? Up to you but not restricted. (I read above they specifies what a counts as a night landing in a tail wheel, full stop; trike can be T&G's.)

[BobTurner]

Originally Posted by gmcjetpilot

(I read above they specifies what a counts as a night landing in a tail wheel, full stop; trike can be T&G's.)

No. To be current to carry passengers at night, you must have logged 3 landings to a FULL stop, at night, in the last 90 days. Any SEL airplane. But if it?s a tailwheel airplane, you must have also logged 3 full stop landings, day or night, in a tailwheel in the last 90 days, to carry passengers.

[gmcjetpilot]

Originally Posted by BobTurner

No. To be current to carry passengers at night, you must have logged 3 landings to a FULL stop, at night, in the last 90 days. Any SEL airplane. But if it’s a tailwheel airplane, you must have also logged 3 full stop landings, day or night, in a tailwheel in the last 90 days, to carry passengers.

You are right for night full stop, but would say for day T/G's are OK for the trike gear.

14 CFR 61.57 Recent flight experience: Pilot in command

(a) General experience.

(1) Except as provided in paragraph (e) of this section, no person may act as a pilot in command of an aircraft carrying passengers or of an aircraft certificated for more than one pilot flight crewmember unless that person has made at least three takeoffs and three landings within the preceding 90 days, and—

(i) The person acted as the sole manipulator of the flight controls; and

(ii) The required takeoffs and landings were performed in an aircraft of the same category, class, and type (if a type rating is required), and, if the aircraft to be flown is an airplane with a tailwheel, the takeoffs and landings must have been made to a full stop in an airplane with a tailwheel.

(NOTE no mention of full stop other than tail-wheel.)


14 CFR 61.57
(b) Night takeoff and landing experience.

(1) Except as provided in paragraph (e) of this section, no person may act as pilot in command of an aircraft carrying passengers during the period beginning 1 hour after sunset and ending 1 hour before sunrise, unless within the preceding 90 days that person has made at least three takeoffs and three landings to a full stop during the period beginning 1 hour after sunset and ending 1 hour before sunrise, and—

(NOTE: all night currency landings are full stop regardless of gear in same category and class)