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Old 02-10-2020, 08:23 PM
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Default My Zip Tip III wingtips arrived!

I ordered these things back 2018 and was surprised and happy to get a shipping notice last week. The units look great and with a reported 175,000 candela of landing lights, I expect they’ll do the job.

I haven’t figured out how to get my pictures show up here directly, but the links work. I took several photos and have them on my builder’s log at N762G Build Log if you want to see more.

https://eaabuilderslog.org/showmy.ph...5E6B0D054.jpeg
https://eaabuilderslog.org/showmy.ph...B68C73906.jpeg
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Old 02-10-2020, 10:00 PM
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How much $$$?
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Old 02-11-2020, 06:18 AM
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Ron, very anxious to hear if you have no noise on the radios. The IIIs are supposed to fix a lot of issues.
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Old 02-11-2020, 12:14 PM
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The cost was $2990 with $200 shipping.

These units were tested against a GTN with no noise, so I'm hopeful. According to Damien at Aveo, the noise issue with the first version was specific to Garmin's GTN series radios and was resolved with added noise isolation on the module power supplies on version 2, so hopefully still resolved on these.

I haven't bought the avionics for my 10 yet, but I am doing wiring with a focus on good grounding. I use all twisted pairs for unshielded wire with individual grounds back to a grounding block and ensure shielding is properly grounded for my shielded wires. It's more work, but I've never had a noise issue on any of my airplanes. In any event, I'll let you know if there's an issue with these units.
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Old 02-11-2020, 12:21 PM
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Beautiful! Thanks for sharing the photography.
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The cost was $2990 with $200 shipping.
Ouch! For that much, I?d expect them to do a lot more for me than just light up the runway.
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Old 02-11-2020, 03:34 PM
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Expensive, yes...but they do looknice
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Old 02-11-2020, 05:02 PM
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Please post after you fly the aircraft. Would love to hear if they have any effect on handling in the roll axis.
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Old 02-12-2020, 05:15 AM
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Ouch! For that much, I’d expect them to do a lot more for me than just light up the runway.
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Expensive, yes...but they do looknice
Right...they do a little more than just light up the runway, although they do that with more directed light than any other landing light I’ve seen available for an RV - these do replace all of the exterior lights needed and is a complete kit, including Amphenol circular connectors and pins. Then take into account the cost of Van’s wingtips, your desired brand of landing lights, taxi lights, position lights (including rear), and strobes, plus all of the mounting hardware, wiring, connectors and lenses. If you price out units that will produce the same candella and deduct the unused parts from your kit, it’s not much more for these.

Then add the fact that the modules are already mounted, the fit on the wings and finish is good, will light up your world and just generally look cool, I consider it a good value, especially if you think about all the other stuff I’ve blown money on for airplanes (for a really good time, price out a starter adapter for a Continental IO-550).

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Please post after you fly the aircraft. Would love to hear if they have any effect on handling in the roll axis.
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I doubt there would be anything for me to notice as I will not have flown my RV before installing these, so I won’t have a reference to compare to. Why do you expect any effect on roll? They do have a minor winglet, but any effect at the wingtip would be induced on both sides. There isn’t any data or testing to show these winglets have any real effect, other than to create conversations... although I’m sure they have to be worth at least 10 knots...
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Old 02-12-2020, 07:53 AM
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I reached out to Damien this past week seeking data on the install, and he had a reply that said they were waiting on some data still.

I was overall curious how the wingtips affect cruise and takeoff rolls in the RV10. Hadn't considered the roll axis itself. I just read a paper on Wingtips on GA aircraft and the effect at cruise vs hp of the engine. In that paper it made the IO-540 look like it could see benefits of the wingtips at the higher speeds.
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