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Old 01-18-2020, 04:18 PM
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There have been (are) several different tails installed on F1 Rockets. I believe the most recent iteration is the MkIII tail. I believe it wasn?t offered for sale until 2018.

People have used RV4 and RV8 tails with various mods on F1 Rockets, too.
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Old 01-18-2020, 06:26 PM
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A friend of mine sent me Pics. Is it a F1 or a RV 8. The picks are not good .
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Old 01-18-2020, 11:10 PM
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Old 01-19-2020, 04:05 AM
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OK, I'll admit that it took some better than average skills to safely land this Rocket. But before you heap too much praise on the guy, remember he is the one who violated FARs and exceeded aircraft
published limitations in order to cause the damage.

I'm reminded of the AirTran pilot who flew through forecast weather in 1998 resulting in severe hail damage to the DC-9. He was hailed as a hero by the media.

I'm going to save my praise for those who overcome adversity not caused by their own incompetence.
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Old 01-19-2020, 04:42 AM
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I'm going to save my praise for those who overcome adversity not caused by their own incompetence.
exactly my thoughts... +1 Ron
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Old 01-19-2020, 07:19 AM
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This situation is alarming, but the fact that Rockets are not raining down from the skies leads me to believe there are some extenuating circumstances at play in this case. I'm very interested to see what those are before I form an opinion.
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Old 01-19-2020, 08:37 AM
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....But before you heap too much praise on the guy, remember he is the one who violated FARs and exceeded aircraft
published limitations in order to cause the damage....

I don't think that's been established yet. So far, all I've seen are three photos showing damage. The actual incident investigation will figure out what did happen and then we'll know too.

So let's not assume that the pilot violated FARs etc. That might be entirely wrong. We don't know yet.

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Old 01-19-2020, 08:44 AM
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It's an early F1, with a CZ-produced tail kit, aka Mk1.... but until we examine it (soon) even that is subject to verification.

As I asked earlier, please stop speculating on what you think happened.

As Toolbuilder said, these planes aren't raining out of the sky, so there were likely extenuating circumstances.
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Old 01-19-2020, 08:54 AM
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I don't think that's been established yet. So far, all I've seen are three photos showing damage. The actual incident investigation will figure out what did happen and then we'll know too.

Dave
Plus ONE, despite ample request/warning not to speculate on the cause.
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Old 01-19-2020, 08:55 AM
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Just a thought---since this seems to be the 3rd owner maybe of this aircraft-----what was its history, and was there possibly prior damage from previous owners that never showed up?
I dont know much about piloting stuff, but purposely exceeding the published limits sounds -----, especially with someone in the back seat that may not be aware of the situation. SCAREY thought.

NOT to impead our friends that fly aerobatics, but surely they fly within the speed envelope published by the manufacturer. And my hats off to those test pilots that push the envelope. I'm guessing there is more to the story here.

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