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Old 01-11-2020, 02:14 PM
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Anyone have suggestions as to where or how I can efficiently fix or replace the black rubber gasket where my fuel metering is coming from? I wonder how long these gaskets are expected to last. I have pictures I took this morning, but I don't know how to attach it.

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Old 01-11-2020, 03:39 PM
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Anyone have suggestions as to where or how I can efficiently fix or replace the black rubber gasket where my fuel metering is coming from? I wonder how long these gaskets are expected to last. I have pictures I took this morning, but I don't know how to attach it.

Thanks, Thor KAWO, Arlington, Wa

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I purchased a 2015 RV8 in 2017, and had to replace the rubber gaskets in April of 2018. I replaced them with cork and some Permatex 80019 Aviation Form-A-Gasket. I've used Permatex 80019 for nearly 40 years on lots of motorcycles(an old Greeves that was a chronic leaker) and cars and it's never let me down. Great stuff. I pumped the tanks out, removed the wing root fairing, removed the sender, cleaned all the pro-seal off the area (being very careful not to get any in the tank) and put it all back together with the cork gasket and a thin film of 80019. Took and evening to do both tanks. Not a drop leaking since.

I'm pretty sure the instructions tell you to throw away the rubber gaskets. Not sure why the builder of my plane used them. If I can find a picture or two, I'll post them.

I used a pump similar to this one.
https://www.amazon.com/Sierra-Tools-...782122&sr=8-11

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Old 01-11-2020, 03:54 PM
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Over time the cork will eventually become saturated with fuel and leak again.

The permanent solution is to remove all gaskets, clean thoroughly and reinstall using only pro-seal.
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Old 01-11-2020, 04:59 PM
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Over time the cork will eventually become saturated with fuel and leak again.

The permanent solution is to remove all gaskets, clean thoroughly and reinstall using only pro-seal.
Bummer. I thought I read somewhere that cork was the solution and that's what my A&P suggested. Two conditional inspections and everything looked dry. When should I expect them to leak again?
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Old 01-11-2020, 05:02 PM
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Bummer. I thought I read somewhere that cork was the solution and that's what my A&P suggested. Two conditional inspections and everything looked dry. When should I expect them to leak again?
The next time it leaks, ditch the gaskets (rubber or cork) and just seal things with proseal. It will still removable, and will have a much lower probability of springing a leak.
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Old 01-11-2020, 05:22 PM
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The next time it leaks, ditch the gaskets (rubber or cork) and just seal things with proseal. It is removable, and has a much lower probability of springing a leak.
Errr. I'll add that to me list of things to expect to do.

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Old 01-11-2020, 05:28 PM
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Bummer. I thought I read somewhere that cork was the solution and that's what my A&P suggested. Two conditional inspections and everything looked dry. When should I expect them to leak again?
Maximum longevity I've seen for the cork gaskets is around 5-7 years.
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Old 01-11-2020, 06:25 PM
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Maximum longevity I've seen for the cork gaskets is around 5-7 years.
Thanks Mel. I'll see what they look like this summer at the conditional inspection inspection and may just replace as a precaution. Best to proseal in the warmer temps unless your work area is heated.
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Old 01-12-2020, 12:38 PM
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Over time the cork will eventually become saturated with fuel and leak again.

The permanent solution is to remove all gaskets, clean thoroughly and reinstall using only pro-seal.
So to understand you correctly Mel you recommend ditching the gasket altogether and using a layer of Proseal in its place?
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Old 01-24-2020, 05:09 AM
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Mel: you suggested proseal instead of permatex. why? i know proseal is absolutley bullet proof but i really don't want to use it.

i installed the naked cork and the rubber gasket on my 7 (which should be very similar to the RV-10) and thinking about to do something before i put in fuel for the first time.

Permantex should work also and would be easier to remove later on for maintanance/modifications etc. or not? Is there anything against the idea to apply permatex #2 on both sides of the cork and rubber gasket?
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