New Product Announcement: GTN 650Xi & GTN 750Xi Series IFR Navigators (1/6/2020)

[krwalsh]

Originally Posted by Rick_A

They must have known that I still have money in my bank account. I?ll probably do the upgrade from my 750 to the 750 Xi soon.

So what?s my 2 year old 750 worth?

Oh, it's worthless now. It'll cost you just to pull it out and dispose of it properly. I'll do you a favor, just ship it to me and I'll take care of it for you.

[ctennis]

Hey g3xpert, any chance the power consumption of the units is lower than their predecessors? One of the reasons I chose the GPS175 over a GTN unit was the significantly lower power draw, but if these newer units consume less power, might be a compelling item...

[Brantel]

Justin,

Some of your images are not showing up anymore. Google Photos strikes again!

[jliltd]

Originally Posted by g3xpert

These are unit only prices:

• GTN 650 Xi - $10,300.00
• GTN 635 Xi - $9,300.00
• GTN 625 Xi - $8,400.00
• GTN 750 Xi - $15,900.00
• GTN 725 Xi - $13,905.00

There are not any upgrade paths from a GTN to a GTN Xi at this time.

Thanks,

Justin

Justin. You probably get this kind of stuff all the time. But I wonder why there was never a GTN 735 or now a GTN 735Xi. A GPS/Com in the larger format would be perfect for pilots flying fire tankers with its bigger screen. They are prohibited from flying IFR and don't have VOR antennas but situational awareness is a huge thing, as is synthetic vision. Most install a GTN 635 with an Aspen with synthetic vision and I can't say that I blame them what with all the mountains and smoke. A GTN 735iX would be a hit. And a G3X Touch would be a life saver. Literally. But the 735 is a unicorn and the G3X Touch AML doesn't include these heroic airframes.

[bkervaski]

Originally Posted by ctennis

Hey g3xpert, any chance the power consumption of the units is lower than their predecessors? One of the reasons I chose the GPS175 over a GTN unit was the significantly lower power draw, but if these newer units consume less power, might be a compelling item...

Just curious and a bit confused .. I can't imagine what would be an issue with power with any modern avionics. At full swing Dual G3X, G5, Dual comms, GTN625, all the lights on, 3 axis autopilot, auto trim, etc, my ammeter never gets above 14 amps. What's your power limitation?

[ctennis]

It's purely for standby/backup/emergency power purposes, not for active flying.

The GTN650:

Main Connector 1.6A Typical 2.8A Max
Comm Connector .45A Typical 5.66A Max (16Watt) 4.02A (10Watt)
Nav Connector .6A Typical 1.16A Max

The newer units:

GPS 175 GPS Navigator
14V: Typical 0.6A, Maximum 0.9A

GNC 355 GPS Navigator with COM radio
GPS/Main Connector
14V: Typical 0.6A, Maximum 0.9A
COM Connector
14V: Typical 1.8A, Maximum 6.0A

Specifically quoting g3xpert in another previous post:

"The low power consumption (compared to older equipment) is another reason these units are attractive." - when referring to the GPS175/355/375 units.

[g3xpert]

Originally Posted by Bavafa

Maybe I missed it but as of now, just a faster boot up and maybe a better resolution on the screen seem to be the difference.
Is this upgrade worth a few thousand $$$?

If this is all I get for the upgrade, I prefer to spend that $$$ on AVGAS.

The Original GTN Navigators are no longer available for purchase, they were succeeded by the GTN Xi Series Navigators. The GTN Xi has been in development for some time, to upgrade the existing hardware for better performance and compatibility with future capabilities.

The Original GTN Series Navigators are very capable navigation units and will continue to be fully supported both in repair and future software updates for new features themselves.

Originally Posted by cgbag40

With my GTN 375 the unit has built in connectivity with Bluetooth. I can move flight plans from the Garmin Pilot on my Samsung Tablet to the GNX 375. Since this capability is what is being promoted as the rational for purchasing the Garmin connect option on the XI I'm left wondering. Why is is that connectivity is standard on the GTN 375 and optional on the XI. Sounds like marketing overruled engineering.
Carlton

The 2 inch Navigators were designed around an integrated Bluetooth driver. The GTN Xi is the next generation of the original GTN Navigator, and we opted to use the existing Flightstream Bluetooth hardware and interface, while focusing on hardware upgrades that will facilitate advanced capabilities in the future.

Originally Posted by ctennis

Hey g3xpert, any chance the power consumption of the units is lower than their predecessors? One of the reasons I chose the GPS175 over a GTN unit was the significantly lower power draw, but if these newer units consume less power, might be a compelling item...

The typical current draw is the same for both the GTN 650 and GTN 650Xi Series Navigators.

Thanks,

Justin

[gmcjetpilot]

Originally Posted by g3xpert

GTN 650Xi and GTN 750Xi are available immediately for a list price of $12,495 and $17,995 respectively.

My left butt cheek clinched where my pant pocket and wallet are.... $12.5K-$18K (about $2K less without radio/NAV). I want one but can't justify the cost for a small single engine kit plane. However it is impressive. Amazing technology for GA which surpasses what is in many airliners. Garmin should continue to develop the lower cost GPS models like the GPS 175.

[g3xpert]

Originally Posted by gmcjetpilot

My left butt cheek clinched where my pant pocket and wallet are.... $12.5K-$18K (about $2K less without radio/NAV). I want one but can't justify the cost for a small single engine kit plane. However it is impressive. Amazing technology for GA which surpasses what is in many airliners. Garmin should continue to develop the lower cost GPS models like the GPS 175.

We have released several options for IFR Navigation in the last year. With the GPS 175 coming in at under $5000, the cost to equip an aircraft for GPS approach capability was reduced significantly. Between the GPS 175, GNC 355, GNX 375, and GTN Xi Series, we have worked to produce different options for different missions in General Aviation, and in this case improving upon previously released equipment.

Thanks,

Justin

[scard]

I've had my head buried in the interconnect documentation for the last week. What the GTN really needs is to get on the CAN "bus", thereby eliminating all of the 429 wiring and the GAD 29 interface box in many of our installations.

There is almost a whole connector on the GTN "reserved for future use". Hmm, if I were a betting man...