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Old 12-17-2019, 12:55 PM
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I'm not suggesting you are a creep Bob. I'm just pointing out that following a person's progress as they go about their day does not become more or less acceptable based upon the vehicle they happen to be in at the moment.

Let's say you overhear a conversation at the FBO and find out that a 17 year female student is going on a solo cross country in a rented 150. Is it OK to track her progress on your iPad? When she lands and jumps in her Honda to leave the airport, is it OK to track her progress for the rest of the day?
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Screen shot of my Pi-Aware desktop browser homepage that displays whenever the computer is running (weather is low today, not much local activity). I can click on any of the targets to get ID and route info....and often do just for grins...especially when it is one of the local flyers. I've never considered myself as a stalker or intruding on someone's privacy.

Sure is fun to watch that Atlas 747-800 freighter arriving from Mexico as it is aimed for a flyover at 2900' over my house while entering the pattern at HSV....man, that thing thunders! But now I'm reading that this is some sort of deviant behavior....

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Old 12-17-2019, 01:27 PM
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Let's not get pedantic. There is a big difference between watching airplanes (things), and taking an uninvited interest in where specific people are, and what they are doing. Both behaviors have been described in this thread.
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Let's not get pedantic. There is a big difference between watching airplanes (things), and taking an uninvited interest in where specific people are, and what they are doing. Both behaviors have been described in this thread.
When I see my airport neighbors headed for breakfast on Saturday morning I am watching specific people and I have a good idea what they are doing.....

And since my RV-6 has been equipped with an APRS transmitter for over ten years I've been informed several times that I've been watched!
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Im one of the few people left on the planet who actually stops and looks up when a plane flies over. I find it magical and do not think being interested in it's travels is any weirder than being interested in the trip reports that people post.

It's all part of the magic to me.

I probably learn more about you looking at your VAF bio than I do seeing your plane is over a latitude/longitude and heading east.
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Public disclosure of personal information should be up to the individual. I have no issue with Facebook, trip reports, or even if you have your own tracker and WANT to be watched. But people forget that not everyone feels the same way. Just because you don't mind being tracked does not transfer over to others.

Perhaps I was brought up in a different era. I respect others privacy and will preserve my own as much as possible. To that end, even though I have the capability to track a neighbor (for example), I won't do so without explicit permission. Tracking a neighbor's car is wrong, and so is tracking their airplane. Their business is their own.
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Michael, below is the link to my APRS tracks. You are welcome to view it anytime you wish....and if you see my track suddenly stop in a cotton field please call the emergency folks for me and provide the lat/long!

https://aprs.fi/#!call=a%2FN399SB&timerange=86400&tail=86400
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I appreciate the invite Sam. I hope you are not offended that I cant extend the same to you.
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I appreciate the invite Sam. I hope you are not offended that I cant extend the same to you.
No offense, Michael--just would appreciate not having behavior being labeled as detrimental to society just because it conflicts with your sensibilities.

Oops...gotta run...just heard something fly over....might be an RV I recognize!
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Old 12-17-2019, 02:19 PM
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I'm not in a position to determine what behavior society seems unacceptable - I just live here. I just don't think pilots get a "pass" on an activity that, in in virtually any other circumstance, would be highly offensive and or borderline criminal.

If they put transponders on cars and allowed the public to determine ownership and track movement in real time there would be an immediate public uproar - and with **** good reason.

It's hypocritical to apply a different privacy standard because of our chosen mode of transportation.
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