Does military aircraft use adsb?

[rvmv]

Was wondering if military aircraft use adsb so they will show up on my cockpit display. Thanks

[MikeyDale]

Very good question! I betting "NO". It may give the enemy the advantage!

[Kyle Boatright]

The military will be using ADSB. Like transponders and the like, the system can and will be turned off (or to a discreet mode) during combat.

But...They have been slow to install the technology. Only about 1/5th of military aircraft will be equipped for ADSB by January 1, 2020.

[Johnnybgoode]

The answer to your question is a definite "maybe".
I agree with Kyle in that I wouldn't count on the majority of them showing up as you're out there flying around.
Patrick

[pazmanyflyer]

A few pages on the subject here - http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...=adsb+MILITARY

[RV6_flyer]

Originally Posted by Kyle Boatright

The military will be using ADSB. Like transponders and the like, the system can and will be turned off (or to a discreet mode) during combat.

But...They have been slow to install the technology. Only about 1/5th of military aircraft will be equipped for ADSB by January 1, 2020.

There is a PRIVATE Facebook Virtual Radar and ADS-B group that monitors Virtual Radar and military. They post info of military and Air Force One tracks all the time. Late November, there was a post about two RQ-4B UAVs flying over Estonia and Greece.

[hpmicrowave]

In the fighter development program I recently retired from Mode S ES (ADSB) was a late after thought but it was implemented. But there is no ADSB in? So the fighter aircraft gets no big traffic picture in the normal civilian traffic environment that we now consider standard and can only detect a RV or any civilian ADSB equipped aircraft if it's either visual, called out by ATC, or picked up on its radar. While the fighter does have a basic IFF interrogator when the ILS is selected it turns off the IFF interrogator and that function is replaced with a Marker Beacon receiver function. Yes Marker Beacon (I know what your thinking). There is no GPS approach function or WAAS that we would consider standard. Plane uses Software function com/NAV radios and requires years and millions of dollars to change.

[snopercod]

Good explanation, Tron. Thanks!

[RV8JD]

Published August 19, 2019:

https://www.aviationtoday.com/2019/0...ir-force-says/

"Military to Have 2,936 Aircraft with ADS-B (Out) by Jan. 1, Air Force Says"

"The Pentagon will have 2,936 aircraft equipped with Automatic Dependent Surveillance-Broadcast (Out) by the FAA-mandated deadline of Jan. 1, according to the U.S. Air Force, the military service in charge of the effort.

That number is just 21 percent of DoD's total aircraft inventory, but officials have said that ADS-B (Out) modifications present a significant depot scheduling challenge, and, in some cases, engineering challenges, such as for fighter aircraft. By 2025, DoD plans to have about 62 percent of its aircraft equipped with ADS-B (Out), including 35 percent of fighter aircraft, 67 percent of helicopters, and 100 percent of mobility, command and control/intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (C2/ISR), and trainer aircraft, an Air Force official said Aug. 19.

On Aug. 19, the Air Force provided a breakdown of the 2,936 aircraft to have ADS-B (Out) by Jan. 1. By that date, no fighter or bomber aircraft or UAVs will have ADS-B (Out), but 1,129 helicopters, 923 mobility aircraft, 259 C2/ISR aircraft, and 625 trainers will, the Air Force said.

The Air Force official said that DoD will not equip aircraft that are to retire by 2025 with ADS-B (Out), as the Pentagon determined that the effort would not be worth the cost. In addition, other aircraft, such as the Air Force bomber fleet and the future B-21 bomber, have mission requirements that "do not align from an operational security standpoint with the broadcast nature of ADS-B (Out).""

Here in the Washington State, I have seen (on my cockpit displays then visually) some Navy P-3s and P-8 Poseidons out of Whidbey NAS, and some Air Force C-17s out of Joint Base Lewis-McChord, that have ADS-B OUT. Whidbey NAS also has many EA-18G Growlers, but I have not seen any with ADS-B OUT yet.

Here is a Navy P-8 Poseidon ("SWORD42”) over the top of Whidbey's Class C airspace on November 4th.



And the corresponding screenshot from the AERA 660 taken a few seconds earlier. (BTW, I'm a big fan of Garmin's "TargetTrend" vector!)

[D Weisgerber]

I've seen Blackhawk helicopters from the Michigan National Guard on my ADSB receiver.