430 waas Update Help!

[RV7A Flyer]

Originally Posted by Kenny Gene

Thank you for sharing.

The problem is not my 430W's or my Nav data cards. The issue is Jeppesen no longer supports MACPRO El Captan 10.11.6, (also guessing various older versions of Microsoft also) so I cannot download and install Jeppesen current or new JDM to download my NAV data cards without having software to run Jeppesen's new version of JDM download system.

Maybe someone will see an opportunity and open up to download cards. I've had a Jeppesen account for over 12 years, but I guess Jeppesen only wants large or fleet operators, or individuals that will keep buying all the latest computer systems for home. I'm happy with my computer system and don't wish to purchase new home computer system just for Jeppesen JDM download software.

I'll call Garmin to see if they have continued support of OS X El Capitan version 10.11.6 software.

Please keep the idea's flowing.

Kenny Gene
Wichita Kansas area Aviator
Rv7a AWC 9-07 690 hrs sold 11-11
Rv10 AWC 10-10 849 hours

I have no idea how old that OS is, but if it's fairly long in the tooth, they may not support it; that wouldn't necessarily be the vendor's fault, as it really is kind of unreasonable to expect avionics vendors to support all extant versions of any OS. Eventually, users really do have to upgrade their home or work computers to newer versions.

That said, yours might not be that old, I dunno.

[Kenny Gene]

Ok, so I'm been doing some work/research on upgrading this morning. Any MAC experts out there?

I have concluded my MAC has version OS X El Capitan Version 10.11.6. My Apple store when I click on the upper left apple, About this Mac, takes you to the App Store and no updates are available. However in order to run the upgraded Jeppesen JDM I need MAC OS 10.12.

Now I'm trying to figure out why my MAC has not sent out and requested automatic upgrades or maybe if I'm even able to upgrade to Sierra or High Sierra. I do have a flying and building buddy who is a MAC guy and so we are trying to figure this out. Thank you Keith.

I'm not a huge computer guy (spreadsheet's yes, OS systems and tech-no) I did well with what I needed, but all the upgrades and buy new this or that is crazy! My hats off and appreciation for older than I (59) pilots that have a grasp on all the smart phones, computers, wireless printers and even all the TV streaming options! Crazy techno world!

I always want current IFR NAV in the cockpit when flying just incase I need to file, however this is a lot of work and frustration for not so hot computer folks to get all figured out.

All suggestions are appreciated. If not for me, someone else on our wonderful site to share with.

Thanks again.

Kenny Gene
Wichita Kansas area Aviator
Rv7a AWC 9-07 690 hrs sold 11-11
Rv10 AWC 10-10 849 hours

[ColoradoSolar]

Macs won't show an update available to a new major OS version. To get that upgrade you have to use the Mac App Store app. Then you can search for Sierra or High Sierra and download the updater from there. It won't let you try to update to a version that doesn't work on your machine.

[Kenny Gene]

Thank you ColoradoSolar for this piece of information.

I have tried several times this morning to update. My buddy suggested I update from my current OS X El Capitan version 10.11.6 to Mac 10.12 Sierra first then onto the High Sierra.

He sent me the link, I downloaded the 10.12, I think it was installed, I closed down my computer and restarted thinking I would now have the Mac 10.12 installed now and when I went to the upper left bar apple icon and clicked About this Mac, the OS X El Capitan version 10.11.6 was still there, no change.

How and what process/steps do I need to upgrade? Can I go to App Store and purchase or download? What do I search for? How do I get this. I purchased my MacPro from Best Buy and covered by the Geek Squad, is this something I must take there to upgrade?

I'm still so lost.

Thank you all in advance for help.

Sincerely,

Kenny Gene
Wichita Kansas area Aviator
Rv7a AWC 9-07 690 hrs sold 11-11
Rv10 AWC 10-10 849 hours

[BobTurner]

Originally Posted by Kenny Gene

. I purchased my MacPro from Best Buy and covered by the Geek Squad, is this something I must take there to upgrade?
Kenny Gene
Wichita Kansas area Aviator
Rv7a AWC 9-07 690 hrs sold 11-11
Rv10 AWC 10-10 849 hours

If you purchased the Geek Squad insurance then by all means take it to them. They?ll know how to deal with this. But....you may have a problem.
Every year I use software (Turbo...) for income taxes. About every 3 years it won?t run, and sends a message ?Software Upgrade needed?. So I upgraded. But eventually, when I tried to upgrade to the newest operating system, I got another message, ?More memory required?. The OS had gotten so large it wouldn?t fit! Choice was to buy new memory cards, or a whole new computer. Cost was nearly the same, so I now own a newer computer (fortunately keyboard, monitor did not need upgrading). It?s planned obsolescence.
Maybe you have a friend with a newer/larger machine who you can visit once a month....

[ColoradoSolar]

Originally Posted by Kenny Gene

Thank you ColoradoSolar for this piece of information.

I have tried several times this morning to update. My buddy suggested I update from my current OS X El Capitan version 10.11.6 to Mac 10.12 Sierra first then onto the High Sierra.

He sent me the link, I downloaded the 10.12, I think it was installed, I closed down my computer and restarted thinking I would now have the Mac 10.12 installed now and when I went to the upper left bar apple icon and clicked About this Mac, the OS X El Capitan version 10.11.6 was still there, no change.

How and what process/steps do I need to upgrade? Can I go to App Store and purchase or download? What do I search for? How do I get this. I purchased my MacPro from Best Buy and covered by the Geek Squad, is this something I must take there to upgrade?

I'm still so lost.

Thank you all in advance for help.

Sincerely,

Kenny Gene
Wichita Kansas area Aviator
Rv7a AWC 9-07 690 hrs sold 11-11
Rv10 AWC 10-10 849 hours

When you go to About this Mac what year does it say your MacBook Pro is?

[Kenny Gene]

Wow! This has been an experience.

To answer an earlier question, my MacBook Pro is Mid-2015.

I still have not been able to upgrade on my own, but I was able to get into a Best Buy and talk with Geek Squad, since I have the full service contract. For some reason, when I purchased my MacBook Pro, I was told to install Parallels Desktop for a couple of programs I was using at the time, but I ended up purchasing another notebook computer, an HP with MS Windows and never used the Parallels Desktop. Maybe (the Geek wasn't for sure, but said there is no hardware reason my notebook was not App Store upgraded to Mojave or Catalina) but maybe because the MacBook hard drive is split for the Parallels could have, don't know, but could be a factor. Again, I am not a computer whiz only a user.

Long story short, I was told because of my service support with Geek Squad, I will only need to purchase a backup hard drive and then Geek Squad will completely back up hard drive, clean hard drive and install the latest Apple OS. I'll be without my computer for 2-3 days. I was told the Geek would upgrade from El Capitan to Sierra, High Sierra, Mojave and finally latest version Catalina.

I'm busy and cannot give my MacBook until after first of December, but If this is the course of action I must take, then after I get my computer back from Geek with JDM re-installed, I'll provide an update post of results. All this for which started out just trying to update my 30 day IFR cycle for my 2 Garmin 430's, as I have done for the past 10 years.

Just like building, it takes measuring, cutting, filing, sanding, fitting, trial fitting and final fit.

Thank all of you whom read and contributed to this cause. Sometime's it takes a village.

Sincerely,

Kenny Gene
Wichita Kansas area Aviator
Rv7a AWC 9-07 690 hrs sold 11-11
Rv10 AWC 10-10 849 hours

[ColoradoSolar]

Sounds like the Geek Squad is going to get you taken care of.

Your machine will run Catalina just fine, my MacBook Pro is a mid 2012 model and it is still supported by Catalina.

[turbo]

Both my macs were to the end of there upgrade life, Yosemite 10.10.5. The wombat arrived in record time and my iPad is now my platform to up load Nav data for mu 430W. Worked like a charm, also serves as a a charger for the iPhone and iPad. Bad-elf wombat to the rescue. Works for me.

[woxofswa]

My advice is to find an avionics shop you like either local or national and send them your old cards and they will send you fresh ones. You save hassle, they make a little money, and you keep a relationship going so that when you're on the road and need quick phone advice, they are there for you.
Keeping some cash flowing to the pro's pays dividends.