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Old 08-09-2005, 01:18 PM
bigginsking bigginsking is offline
 
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Arrow BMA EFIS Lite

14 weeks after putting the money down my EFIS has shipped. From what I've read in this space before that seems like a short wait although I was told 8-10 weeks.
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Old 08-09-2005, 04:01 PM
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Default Ha!

Welcome to the party.

Now if you want some real fun, call over there and find out when it will ship.


Enjoy,
Kahuna
Bought 3 G3's from em.
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Old 08-10-2005, 07:17 AM
bigginsking bigginsking is offline
 
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Default BMA EFIS Lite

Oh, it has shipped. That was the point of my post. Give everyone an accurate measure of the lead time. I ordered in May 2 and it shipped Aug. 8.
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Old 08-21-2005, 12:52 PM
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Do you have it yet? Update please!
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Old 08-21-2005, 06:40 PM
glenmthompson glenmthompson is offline
 
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Red face Good laughs calling BM!!!

Yep, ya want a good laugh? Call BM and ask the following:

:I heard a guy was quoted 8 weeks (for efis lite) and finally gave up after 4 months, wow is that true?

:I heard a guy purchased an EFIS 1 and spent over $19,000 (50% down on day 1) on the above guy's recommendation, was quoted delivery in 14 days, FINALLY received after almost 3 months (mucho whining), and, the above individual, an experienced builder, engineer, NOT an avionics novice, spent over 75 hours installing said EFIS 1 and was amazed at the omissions, lack of jumpers, bad analog 3 card, sensors, wireing errors in BM harnesses, falsehoods, misrepresentations, and just wrong stuff in the manual. Is this true? (Call Bob, the tech guy to confirm all the above)

:I heard that all BM products are "fluid" in their movement, as in almost instantaneous reaction to attitude changes like Dynon, GRT, Chelton. Is that true?

:I heard the installation manual for the EFIS 1 ($19,000++ with autopilot) is very complete and virtually plug and play with BM wireing harnesses, is that true? ( I am laughing hysterically writing this myself!)

Just a few of the questions off the top of my head I that I am VERY familiar with,... PM me for details...Have fun, and see you at the GRT counter at Sun N Fun next year. That is where myself and NUMEROUS friends are now taking our EFIS dollars.
Glen
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Old 08-22-2005, 05:47 AM
glenmthompson glenmthompson is offline
 
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Default PS to my previous post.

One more thing then I promise to get off my soap box yet once again. When you call Sheilla for a few good laughs at BM, I have one more question for you to ask her.
Ask her if she heard of the guy (myself), that sold all of his flight instruments on the promise to his face at Sun N Fun, the the unit would be delivered the following week. The ensueing grounding of my aircraft was the final, massive straw that put me bitterly over the edge when I found out that numerous other individuals received their units before me even though I had my deposite in MONTHS BEFORE them!
Last note, GRT WILL NOT take your money until delivery, unlike BM.

Glen
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Old 08-24-2005, 08:02 AM
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Default Certainly, displays are not fluid!!!

I have even held the factory EFIS 1 CPU box in my hand at Sun N Fun, with Greg (I think) watching, and he even admits that when all pages are displayd, the update times slow down!. Now, for anyone who doubts my statement that the displays"step", hold a unit in your hand and watch the horizon line as you move the unit say....5-10 degrees per second ( not a horrible pitch or roll rate, especially in turbulance). Watch carefully, you will not beleive you are looking at a 16,000 dollar display! Now, grab your friend's Dynon, or GRT and do the same. There is NO COMPARISON on the fluidity of the movement!
As far as support, once you get past their accusations that I, builder friend and his computer Geek son am clueless, ( still VERY upset at this)... The factory is great at crisis management.
Glen
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Old 08-24-2005, 09:24 AM
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This is interesting, I was planning on a pair of EFIS/Lite's for my -7, but thats a ways away yet. I'll keeped tooned.
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Old 08-24-2005, 08:15 PM
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Default Efis comparison...

Yep, side by side comparisons of the units is pretty much mandatory, especially with the lower prices of all the lites coming online from GRT and Dynon.
Glen
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Old 08-25-2005, 03:07 PM
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Default BMA EFIS Performance

Glen, I can see that you've had issues with BMA regarding the delivery of your G3 Lite. However your comparison of EFIS One performance vs that of the G3 Lite is apples vs oranges. A fully configured EFIS One with all of the 3D terrain running does indeed have a slower refresh rate than it does in "Standard" or "Acro" mode. They tell you up front not to use terrain mode when doing any "yanking and banking". That being said the current performance is appx 105 degrees per second for the EFIS One. NOW, let's talk about the G3 Lite, which is a totally new technology instrument, that has a roll rate of appx 400 deg per second! And, right you are, side by side comparison, while very difficult to arrange, even at a trade show (think about the logistics of making that happen) would probably be the end of the competition in performance comparison.

With regards to support, the company owner has proven over and over again that he will do WHATEVER it takes to make his customers happy. Don't believe me, check their discussion board and see for yourself.
In closing, sharing your displeasure with a company is not only your right, but the American way, but there's no reason to try to sway fellow RV builders with innacurrate information.
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